Best caibre for long range f class?

The way I see it, F Open Class is where the big equipment race is. I am not saying this is a bad thing, if your pockets are deep enough to keep up with the Jones's.

Whereas F TR is a more level paying field by everyone shooting the same caliber(s).

Both classes are needed in competition. At the end of the match the shooter with the most skill that day , weekend, week, will win. It is pretty tough to buy points or V Bulls.
 
maynard said:
The way I see it, F Open Class is where the big equipment race is. I am not saying this is a bad thing, if your pockets are deep enough to keep up with the Jones's.

Whereas F TR is a more level paying field by everyone shooting the same caliber(s).

Both classes are needed in competition. At the end of the match the shooter with the most skill that day , weekend, week, will win. It is pretty tough to buy points or V Bulls.
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The standard FTR thing was true until they lifted the bullet weight restrictions. Now there is everybit an equipment war going on in FTR.

In fact, much more so now that Berger is putting out these Hybrid heavies.

There are a few posts on US sites debating this very issue right now.

This war was a driving factor in my MPOD design. Less weight in the pod, allowing for more weight elsewhere in the rig.

As they say, stock car racing is cheap until everyone wants to win. Then it gets very expensive as racers try and improve on the same "stock" parts.

Jerry
 
These are always interesting to read. It seems to always come down to big bangers if the choice were given and how far some guy got wacked in a war. Bring your big banger to Connaught and a number of guys will have their way with you with 223's and a number of guys will beat you off their elbows with irons and a 308 (maybe it will be me!). Simple solution for those that have limited experience and need to ask, buy anything that has decent barrel life, like a 223, and wear out a couple of barrels. When you have done this and learned to load properly then you will know what you want to go to next and it will be worth the trip. Don't think you are going to only do it once and do it right the first time, no such thing. That's like saying you will be happy for life with the first woman (or man, given a woman) you ever asked out!
 
Jordan Smith said:
The only fly in your soup, is that the world record sniper shot was made by a .338LM ;)
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Good to know!!!! That's why dummies like me post these questions and topics! Back to the original discussion...I think if I were to rebarrel tomorrow my two front runners would be the 6.5X47 or the 284...but I have never had a 8tw tube on either of my 6AIs...might be fun to try it with some 115gr pills at 3100+fps...should hold its own at 1K!
 
RIFLEF said:
Ian,
Very sound advice, But who listens?
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Don't worry there are some of us guys out here with only a .270 hunting rifle to our names very much listening (well maybe a .22 and a shotgun as well). We stay quiet not posting much but learning. We spend far for time reading and trying to sort out good solid info from the massive amounts of useless bragging we see so much of on here than posting. Keep the good advice flowing. Maybe one day the people that post the repetitive useless crud will realize anyone with half a brain just stops reading their posts.
 
spenom said:
Don't worry there are some of us guys out here with only a .270 hunting rifle to our names very much listening (well maybe a .22 and a shotgun as well). We stay quiet not posting much but learning. We spend far for time reading and trying to sort out good solid info from the massive amounts of useless bragging we see so much of on here than posting. Keep the good advice flowing. Maybe one day the people that post the repetitive useless crud will realize anyone with half a brain just stops reading their posts.
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I agree 1000%. :) Same boat here, don't post a lot, but darn I read a lot. After reading for a certain amount of time, you see names coming back and after a while you figure out who you listen too and those you just skip over.

Tks to those who try to teach about their knowledge
 
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how about a 6SLR

for those who are sensitive to recoil,

coyote did you have a 6slr, and compare to 284 with recoil as the item to compare against

jefferson
 
mr. robertson is bang on. everyone assumes that all you need is a good rifle to win. In the end that is part of it, but like every sport there are those who excel and those that don't. the guys that do well figured out a few things along the way like there is no substitute for experience. There is no substitute for the sound advice of a seasoned shooter. problem with these sites is there is so much absolute bs out there.

the only parts of the whole shooting thing that generally doesn't need replacement or doesn't wear out with use is the scope stock and action. pretty much everything from barrels to brass needs the be replaced at one time or another.

gotta accept that if you want to shoot lots, the gun changes along the way, so you need to learn how to load properly and load develop properly. no point using a 243 or a 6.5-284 for f-class unless you can load and load develop efficiently because your load with change from match to match to keep up with barrel wear and seating depth.

223 is a decent choice, but i have to say that the 6br is on hell of a shooter and it is easy to make it work well. you are going to reach a functional limit with precision if you stick with factory guns and ammo. we used to shoot off our elbows with issued ammo so that evened the playing field even more. that isn't what f-class is all about so you need to master gun, loading and your own shooting abilities. the only way you will learn these lessons is to shoot with other shooters who know what they are doing and listen a little less to folks that just want you to walk in their own shooes to make them feel better regardless of how stupid their advice may be
 
Jefferson said:
for those who are sensitive to recoil,

coyote did you have a 6slr, and compare to 284 with recoil as the item to compare against

jefferson
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Jeff I haven't shot the 284 yet but from what guys shooting them tell me with 180's the recoil of the 284 is more than a 308 and a bit less than a 300 win mag .

My 6slr is comparable to my 6br for recoil no noticeable difference I beleive the 284 is going to be much more.
 
coyote said:
Jeff I haven't shot the 284 yet but from what guys shooting them tell me with 180's the recoil of the 284 is more than a 308 and a bit less than a 300 win mag .

My 6slr is comparable to my 6br for recoil no noticeable difference I beleive the 284 is going to be much more.
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I am a bit "recoil sensitive" (read pussy) and i can shoot my .284 Shehane almost free recoil from prone the same way I shoot my 260 & 6BR.

It does take some getting used to but it can be done quite easily.
 
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caramel said:
What kind of groups you guys get at 600 metres, this is what i get with my 308, 1.75 inch at 600 metres, it add up to about .1 MOA...would i be in or out... JP.
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What loads are you using and how are the groups at 800m?
 
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