Best compensator for glock 17L and reduced recoil spring info?

[FoxAlpha]

General comment,
The OP never really stated what his purpose was for asking about comps and springs etc.
Nowhere did he state that he's looking to throw money at a potential issue with his shooting.

So while the comments about " its a gimmick" and "spend your money on ammo" may or may not be proper advice for him, I just see a guy who wants to customize his gun.

As is common on this forum, rather than answer the specific question, everyone piles on their opinion regardless of relevance.

You feel that your "wealth of knowledge" needs to be shared? why not ask what the intended result is and tailor a response.
Conversations are way more productive that way.

I would say judging by the below comment by the OP, he's looking to improve his abilities by compensating his gun.

Training does help for sure. Since the gun is accurate and I am not....but a "gimmick" that sounds odd.

Judging by that statement, I see someone whose looking to improve their skills by adding parts to the gun to make the gun better instead of training and practice to make themselves better. Again, if you want it for look cool factor have it er, but adding parts to a gun does not improve an green/inaccurate pistol shooter

 

[Kidd X]

I'll start off by saying, if you really want to comp your gun I support your decision 100%, not that my opinions means anything but it clarifies the attitude of this post.
Putting a comp or lightweight recoil springs will not make you a better shooter. Period. The only thing that makes you a better shooter is training and practice. I get KiddX's point of view, because so often on here and in the real world you get these guys who'll drop 4K on a custom Glock, or want to drop every Gucci race gun part into a 3k KAC rifle, and then ##### and moan about how "my gun sucks" because they spent all their money on parts and nothing on ammo and training. Ask any professional shooter, the key to mastering the shooting sports is mastering and practice of the basics, not a super ultra high speed wonder device strapped to your gun of choice. Don't get me wrong, if I ever discover this device I'll market the ever loving hell out of it and retire off of the profits, but until then it's all about the basics. I don't think the word gimmick is the best choice either, because yes race gun parts do add benefits but they're only evident on proficient shooters. If you put a 5 thousand dollar STI race gun in the hands of a newer shooter, you won't see the difference on paper wether they're shooting that or a stock Glock.

I'm sorry to say, but a lot of these "millenials" think you can buy your way to success and that attitude has shifted to this industry as well. Things like, if I have an expensive car I can drive good, or if I have an expensive suit Im successful. Most people in all aspects of life don't want to actually be successful because it's to much work, so it's easier for them to "appear successful".

The tools you use in life will not equate to success. Time & effort however, will.

All that being said, if you want a comp by all means comp the gun. I'm the guy whose probably spent almost 4-5 cases worth of ammo on Surefire weapon lights. Do they make me a better shooter? Nope, but I do like them and that's a justifiable return for me.
Folks here are always going to disagree with you on something, I guess you've just got to try and weed through all the BS to find some good answers.

Best of luck OP.

And that folks is the lesson for today.. Thank you FoxAlpha you took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[BBKKCC]

And that folks is the lesson for today.. Thank you FoxAlpha you took the words right out of my mouth.

except non of you answers are the best compensator or info about using a reduced power spring. why even post when you not answering either of my questions.

for some reason i seem to need to clarify simple questions with my every dream and desire to be a gun enthusiast.

I am new to shooting just a few years. I have bought and sold a bunch of guns as i pursue the ones that i really like. I like .22lr and really enjoy shooting at the range. I had a revolver and really like it so i bought a s&W 617 revolver because it is what i want to shoot. In the 2 years of looking and trying the only other hand gun i can actually afford that i was interested in was a glock 17L one came up for sale with a threaded barrel and I like compensators. i have owned one before but not for a glock or 9mm so i came here to this site for answers to my questions not deep dives into the core issue you think is the reason i wanted to buy a compensator.

I have never shot the gun and I'm not the best a the range yet so i wanted to set up the gun how i want it to be and learn to shoot it well (training). so it made no difference to you if i learn on a compensated gun instead of a non compensated. it how I want to shoot.

just insane you think you have the right answer and didn't even address the main questions.

thank you for the couple people who did.

another answers that are related to the actual questions would be appreciated.

 

[BBKKCC]

Judging by that statement, I see someone whose looking to improve their skills by adding parts to the gun to make the gun better instead of training and practice to make themselves better. Again, if you want it for look cool factor have it er, but adding parts to a gun does not improve an green/inaccurate pistol shooter

another odd response where you judge me unjustly and were off base other than i was new to pistol shooting. seems like you thought patterns are skewed.

 

[pauls]

I would say judging by the below comment by the OP, he's looking to improve his abilities by compensating his gun.



Judging by that statement, I see someone whose looking to improve their skills by adding parts to the gun to make the gun better instead of training and practice to make themselves better. Again, if you want it for look cool factor have it er, but adding parts to a gun does not improve an green/inaccurate pistol shooter

Only thing is, that comment was made 15 posts into the thread, well after his original question was ignored and unrelated opinions offered.
My previous comment stands

 

[FoxAlpha]

Only thing is, that comment was made 15 posts into the thread, well after his original question was ignored and unrelated opinions offered.
My previous comment stands

Note that my comments regarding my self established opinions on compensators was made after the OP made comments hinting at his inexperience with handgun shooting. I made an assumption, and it turned out to be reasonably correct. So far, I wouldn't say I've "unjustly judged" anyone.

One must realize that even though you may ask a question regarding A & B, there's always the possibility of C.
It's reasonable to consider that sometimes others may know more than you, and that others are offering their opinions that go against what you want because they've witnessed plenty of others go down the same road all with similar results. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here.

Instead of complaining that a post is not what the OP wants to hear, consider its relevance and carry on.
You act as if my simple explanations are demands. Note that every post of mine has come with the caveat "do whatever you really want" in the end, because I don't honestly care if you compensate your Glock or you strap a set of rubber testicles to it.

All I'm simply saying, is consider the alternative, that maybe what you want isn't going to achieve the end result you desire.
I'm not here to tell you what the best comp/red. recoil spring is, I'm here to either make you reconsider your decisions or reaffirm them. Take this into consideration, and then re-read my statements with that attitude and maybe you'll see that.

 

[FoxAlpha]

Training does help for sure. Since the gun is accurate and I am not....but a "gimmick" that sounds odd. It's been scientifically proven to work. And although in most cases sponsored, lots of competition builds have compensators. Why would they add the weight and size for a "gimmick"


I don't mind the comments or your attitude people like you have been around since day one of the internet. But instead of your, although constructive, snide one liners.please take the time to elaborate why you think that and become a useful part of the conversation.

Also, as a relevance post, you did ask us to elaborate why we think what we think.

 

[BBKKCC]

Note that my comments regarding my self established opinions on compensators was made after the OP made comments hinting at his inexperience with handgun shooting. I made an assumption, and it turned out to be reasonably correct. So far, I wouldn't say I've "unjustly judged" anyone.

One must realize that even though you may ask a question regarding A & B, there's always the possibility of C.
It's reasonable to consider that sometimes others may know more than you, and that others are offering their opinions that go against what you want because they've witnessed plenty of others go down the same road all with similar results. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong here.

Instead of complaining that a post is not what the OP wants to hear, consider its relevance and carry on.
You act as if my simple explanations are demands. Note that every post of mine has come with the caveat "do whatever you really want" in the end, because I don't honestly care if you compensate your Glock or you strap a set of rubber testicles to it.

All I'm simply saying, is consider the alternative, that maybe what you want isn't going to achieve the end result you desire.
I'm not here to tell you what the best comp/red. recoil spring is, I'm here to either make you reconsider your decisions or reaffirm them. Take this into consideration, and then re-read my statements with that attitude and maybe you'll see that.

Can you please just not post in the threads I create. I do not find you to be an added value and would prefer to not have the drama you help create.

No one asked you to affirm or not my opinions you literally said you are not here for the actual question. Just dumb

 

[Kidd X]

Can you please just not post in the threads I create. I do not find you to be an added value and would prefer to not have the drama you help create.

FoxAlpha is bang on with his posts. It is you who wants us to role play and feed your desire for a compensator. If you want one get one. You already admit you don't know which comp will be the "best" and FoxAlpha and myself are simply saying that a compensator will not improve your shooting skills. A smart person would apply some deductive reasoning and come to the safe conclusion that what you will benefit from the most is more shooting, definitely some professional training and unlikely from a compensator. HOWEVER..... If you want a compensator then buy whichever one you want because it will make no difference on your skill set..

 

[TT1900]

Can you please just not post in the threads I create. I do not find you to be an added value and would prefer to not have the drama you help create.

You could just not start threads if you're too sensitive to see what others think. Public forum; while there is no rule stating marginal ideas shall be recognized and ridiculed, it is probable.

 

[BBKKCC]

FoxAlpha is bang on with his posts. It is you who wants us to role play and feed your desire for a compensator. If you want one get one. You already admit you don't know which comp will be the "best" and FoxAlpha and myself are simply saying that a compensator will not improve your shooting skills. A smart person would apply some deductive reasoning and come to the safe conclusion that what you will benefit from the most is more shooting, definitely some professional training and unlikely from a compensator. HOWEVER..... If you want a compensator then buy whichever one you want because it will make no difference on your skill set..

Your honestly dumb.

Of course I don't know which compensator is best. That is what this thread is for people who own compensators or glock 17s.

No one asked you to role play anything. Or your opinion about training or foxes. I admitted I'm new to shooting but for all you knew i could be great at shooting and just wanted to try a compensator. You and fox are again injecting your ignorant opinions into the thread and have not once actually answered the questions about compensators and springs. If you don't know the answer then don't say anything.

Your useless.

 

[BBKKCC]

You could just not start threads if you're too sensitive to see what others think. Public forum; while there is no rule stating marginal ideas shall be recognized and ridiculed, it is probable.

And here we go another useless post and person. You totally ignored the threads actual questions and just interjected your own personal thoughts about something unrelated.

Do you really have nothing better to do?

I'm not sensitive but even if it was neither you or kid or even really fox actually answered the question.

My shooting skill has nothing to do with asking people about their experiences with glock 17 and compensators.

You all are missing the whole threads point

If I had asked which will benefit me more as a shooter training or compensatory then kid and fox would be bang on. Instead they are both ignorant to the question and useless in this thread.

It's just sad they have the time to take over a thread that had a genuine question.

Then you don't even have anything relevant to add either. Not one comment about compensators or springs or even glocks

The problem here is not with me


Edit. I re read your earlier post my apologies you did try earlier but this recent comment is not relevant or needed

 

[BBKKCC]

Please if you feel like responding to the thread can we keep it related to compensators and springs and glocks. That is my interest.

Thank you

 

[gdawg]

If you haven't already, I would do a quick check of the US forums like Glocktalk. You will find a much larger group of folks who have directly experimented with the aftermarket options, than you will find here. I have nothing to add but have seen folks complain about improper alignment with some brands (either because of the threading on the barrel or the comp e.g. below) so there are a few consideration to be mindful of. The threading on your barrel, crossed checked with what you can actually get in Canada may limit things down to only a few choices though).

 

[Kidd X]

Training does help for sure. Since the gun is accurate and I am not....but a "gimmick" that sounds odd. It's been scientifically proven to work. And although in most cases sponsored, lots of competition builds have compensators. Why would they add the weight and size for a "gimmick"


I don't mind the comments or your attitude people like you have been around since day one of the internet. But instead of your, although constructive, snide one liners.please take the time to elaborate why you think that and become a useful part of the conversation.

Your honestly dumb.

Of course I don't know which compensator is best. That is what this thread is for people who own compensators or glock 17s.

No one asked you to role play anything. Or your opinion about training or foxes. I admitted I'm new to shooting but for all you knew i could be great at shooting and just wanted to try a compensator. You and fox are again injecting your ignorant opinions into the thread and have not once actually answered the questions about compensators and springs. If you don't know the answer then don't say anything.

Your useless.

If you read the bold from one of your previous posts you can clearly read that you admitted to being the weak link in the system. You are asking about a compensator which you want in hopes of improving your shooting performance. I am telling you and FoxAlpha is also telling you that a compensator WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Get some training, shoot your gun, stop wasting money on useless crap. Regardless of which comp you buy your performance will not change and you will be disappointed. Hence why I said "it doesn't matter which comp is the "best" as it won't make any difference."

For the record, it should be you're dumb, not your dumb. If you're gonna throw insults at people it's best to ensure your spelling and grammar are at least at sixth grade level..

Steel challenge open guns are often built with compensators.
They use bunny fart 9mm loads.

Even the 22lr guns have comps.

Whether the benefits are real or perceived, there must be some added value or top competitors wouldn't be doing it.

Nope. People buy dumb gimmicky crap all the time because they "believe" it will make a difference. Very few ever test and confirm the theory and even fewer people would notice a significant difference anyway. Just because people do or buy certain things doesn't necessarily mean they're right.. We used to bleed people out to cure a common fever, should we continue this practice??

 

[BBKKCC]

If you read the bold from one of your previous posts you can clearly read that you admitted to being the weak link in the system. You are asking about a compensator which you want in hopes of improving your shooting performance. I am telling you and FoxAlpha is also telling you that a compensator WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Get some training, shoot your gun, stop wasting money on useless crap. Regardless of which comp you buy your performance will not change and you will be disappointed. Hence why I said "it doesn't matter which comp is the "best" as it won't make any difference."

For the record, it should be you're dumb, not your dumb. If you're gonna throw insults at people it's best to ensure your spelling and grammar are at least at sixth grade level..




Nope. People buy dumb gimmicky crap all the time because they "believe" it will make a difference. Very few ever test and confirm the theory and even fewer people would notice a significant difference anyway. Just because people do or buy certain things doesn't necessarily mean they're right.. We used to bleed people out to cure a common fever, should we continue this practice??

You are right the auto correct on my phone is not perfect and I didn't read it again.

But you have nothing of value to add to my original question before you knew i was not an experienced shooter. So please don't use that ad an excuse.

Please don't post in the thread. This now approaching harassment and that is not accepted on the site as you know.

Neither is name calling guess but you are not needed in this thread or helping and that is frustrating

 

[BBKKCC]

Thank you. I actually was looking at the compensator in that image earlier today.

Yes my thread on the silencer co. Barrel is not bad for finding comps but it seems to stick out far so I am curious about a gap

 

[Kidd X]

You are right the auto correct on my phone is not perfect and I didn't read it again.

But you have nothing of value to add to my original question before you knew i was not an experienced shooter. So please don't use that ad an excuse.

Please don't post in the thread. This now approaching harassment and that is not accepted on the site as you know.

Neither is name calling guess but you are not needed in this thread or helping and that is frustrating

Honestly I didn't need you to admit your skills were lacking. The vast majority of firearms owners can't shoot for sh*t. Your asking about a compensator was a dead give away that you are not a skilled shooter..

 

[BBKKCC]

Honestly I didn't need you to admit your skills were lacking. The vast majority of firearms owners can't shoot for sh*t. Your asking about a compensator was a dead give away that you are not a skilled shooter..

That's insane. ..you have an oddly skewed assumption of the world.

Lots of very experienced shooter use and enjoy compensators.

Again I will please ask you to not post in the thread. If you are not talking about the actual questions the first post.

Thank you

 

[WRH]

I have shot a compensated Glock... you're going to need to experiment with a lighter spring or hotter ammo as the action may not fully cycle with regular ammo. I'd try a 14 or 15 lb spring to start but it is ammo dependant. If you have the money and it's something you want to try, go for it.