Best Dangerous Game Rifle?

[Wild_Thing]

What about the .375 Remington Ultra Mag? Is it obsolete now? I remember the ballistics on it were quite something...definately some knockdown power

The ballistics on the round are great. You said DGR though and to me that means a purpose built charge stopper. Let's face it, the RUM is a very long cartridge with a rebated rim in a push-feed rifle and really, nothing says short-stroke quite like a large charging carnivourous predator. I'd say that you are far better off with the A or B Ruger .375 offering or an appropriately chambered Mauser. CRF and a shorter barrel outweigh longer range ballistics in a DGR. I like the Model 700 fine, just not for this specific application though.

 

[tkv000]

I have a BRNO 600 as well as the 602. Both feed and extract flawlessly, even when I cycle the bolt as fast and as hard as I can.

My 602 holds 6 .375 H&H's in the magazine. Hopefully I'll never need all 6.

+3 for the Brno ZKK 602's (I have 3)

Mine all feed Flawlessly, the 375's hold 6 down, I have one with the pop up peep sight (1968 model) No word of a lie, I can hit damn near as good @100 yards with the peep sight as with my other brno that has the Leupold VXIII 1.5x5x20. I think there great guns. I had 2 model 70 CRF and traded them both, I like the Brno's much better.

The set trigger is neat to.

 

[geologist]

I have one with the pop up peep sight (1968 model)

You have the rifle that I was looking for you selfish bastard!

 

[tkv000]

You have the rifle that I was looking for you selfish bastard!

That makes two of us, I looked since I first got into rifles, I did my research and determined that was the one I wanted, I looked and looked, then I looked some more. I ended up coming across the Factory Engraved one, and bought that one thinking I would never find the peep sight model. Then it came up for sale in the EE, I jumped all over it, but it was sold, I told the owner to keep me in mind in case it fell through, I couldn't stop thinking about "The one that got away". Low and behold, it fell through, and he gave me first dibs (well, second, but you know what I mean) I jumped all over it for the second time.

I was going to have it converted to 404 Jeffery, as I already have one in 375, but the damn thing shoots so good, I can't bring myself to. All my Brno's are great shooters, don't know if I've been lucky, or they all are.

Now I've ended up with 3 375 H&H's (2 Brno's, and one Ruger #1 Tropical Stainless, also a shooter) and a 416 Rigby Brno, I think I'm covered in the Dangerous Game Department...now...to find someone to take me Dangerous Game hunting....

 

[tkv000]

I am looking for a high quality Mauser bolt action rifle in 375 H&H with good dangerous game sights.

In a perfect world, I see myself findng a BRNO 602, in good shape, with the pop up aperture sight for around $600-700.

I have seen them come up occasionally in the $800-1000 range.

Oh damn, just read your other post, seems I aquired the Peep sight Brno in your first price range as well... Sorry.

Did I mention the PO also only fired 18 rounds out of it, and included the 2 he didn't shoot? The mag spring is some tight, will need a lot of working in.

 

[Drillbit]

Sako 375 H&H with a Leupold VX-III 1.5-5 is what I use for bears in BC. Works fine. I would stick with a caliber that is common enough to buy ammo wherever you plan to hunt. If you chose an exotic caliber, buy a big heavy gun in case you have to use it as a club!
Good luck with your decision!
Gerich

 

[X-fan]

The ballistics on the round are great. You said DGR though and to me that means a purpose built charge stopper. Let's face it, the RUM is a very long cartridge with a rebated rim in a push-feed rifle and really, nothing says short-stroke quite like a large charging carnivourous predator. I'd say that you are far better off with the A or B Ruger .375 offering or an appropriately chambered Mauser. CRF and a shorter barrel outweigh longer range ballistics in a DGR. I like the Model 700 fine, just not for this specific application though.

Crf has its points this is true.

The rebated rim thing is a moot point in a quality rifle. The 500 Jefferey and 404 Jeffrey are a couple of historically renowned cartridges...Both have rebated rims.

Function is everything in a DGR.
My personal 375H&H model 70 (Super Grade) fed like a pile of crap....Crf doesn't mean chit without perfection.

While many might sneer at a Remington as a DG rifle my 375 Ultra feeds fires and ejects perfectly. After almost 30 years with a Remington at my side using anything else in a dangerous game situation would (for me) be a big mistake. All of my hunting Remingtons (near 20) wear the same stock, length of pull, and even have a trigger weight within ounces of each other.
Heck...Even my target rifles are Remington.

I have tried other rifles and have run into unexpected (operator error) handling glitches. While I can (literally) operate a Remington blindfolded, I find I am comparably awkward with another action.

I have never short stroked a Remington.

 

[geologist]

All my Brno's are great shooters, don't know if I've been lucky, or they all are.

Both my 600 and 602 shoot MOA with their scopes.

The 602 with the express sights off the bench with only a front bag (I'm such an idiot going to the range with 1 bag ) shoots like this with factory ammo.

 

[geologist]

Oh damn, just read your other post, seems I aquired the Peep sight Brno in your first price range as well... Sorry.

Did I mention the PO also only fired 18 rounds out of it, and included the 2 he didn't shoot? The mag spring is some tight, will need a lot of working in.

Now you're just being cruel

 

[mackillan]

No lol but always greedy for information. Since I was banned I cant get on EE. I am looking at a .375 Ruger African for one trip. Curious about how good a rifle it is and what sort of scope I should mount on it.

Are you a little touchy these days or what? What's wrong, fail a spelling test?



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[Boomer]

The ballistics on the round are great. You said DGR though and to me that means a purpose built charge stopper. Let's face it, the RUM is a very long cartridge with a rebated rim in a push-feed rifle and really, nothing says short-stroke quite like a large charging carnivourous predator. I'd say that you are far better off with the A or B Ruger .375 offering or an appropriately chambered Mauser. CRF and a shorter barrel outweigh longer range ballistics in a DGR. I like the Model 700 fine, just not for this specific application though.

The .375 Ultra is long, but no longer than others built for magnum length actions, and it is shorter than some of the NE cartridges. Whether push feed or CRF, the bolt face must be able to engage the rebated rim, and this is a function of the magazine and follower. It either works or it doesn't, if it works all is well, if it doesn't get it fixed. Short stroking is simply a matter of improper technique. This is not something that is improved by getting an action that is a half inch shorter, it is improved by learning the correct technique. I don't recall a time that I ever short stroked my Ultra, or any other bolt gun, but then again I learned how to cycle a bolt action before last week.

 

[Camp Cook]

Only feeding problems I have ever encoutered problems with were with control feed bolts.

I don't like them and the only rifle I own that has one is my old Husquavarna rechambered to 270 Weatherby that my grandfather gave me.

If he didn't give to me I would have sold it years ago as well.

Give me a push bolt feed any day and I have never short stroked a bolt either...

 

[Boomer]

Although I've never handled one, it is said that an original .416 Rigby Mauser could cycle empty cartridges from the magazine. I've never owned a 700 that would do that, and if my 602 did it I'd be a happy man. Facing dangerous game it is better to have a bullet seated in the neck of the cartridge, but having a rifle that would cycle empties without a hiccup would be something to aspire to.

 

[Gatehouse]

CRF vs PF!!

Assuming that they are both in good working order/functioning properly, I'd say that either one of them will work just fine. The CRF has a slight edge if you *do* short stroke the bolt, in that it won't allow another cartridge to pop up out of the magazine until the empty is ejected. If you are not into short strokes, then there shouldn't be any issue with either of them.

However, give me a CRF rifle any day..I far prefer them, as long as they are in good working order.

 

[hansol]

CRF's just exude bad-ass awesomeness. And that is never something to overlook in a dangerous game rifle.

 

[X-fan]

Short stroking is quite likely related to a personal biology......I guess it comes down what errr...."action" you are used to.

Gatehouse prefers the assistance of control feed while Hansol clearly suffers from "action" envy....Enough said!

Sorry for the derail.
I will go back to my corner!

 

[SuperCub]

Here's the basis for a proper DGR. With a bit of fine tuning, of course.

 

[Boomer]

What's it going to turn into Super Cub? Of course you'll replace that set trigger with a proper single stage trigger!

 

[Levi Garrett]

Magnum Caliber @ or over 375 h&h
A boltaction with CRF
Fitted for the shooter with quality express sights, and a good recoil pad (no flinching eh)
A scope/mount setup that can be removed quickly, and have the quality required for dangerous game, ie great fov, low light viewing excellent, and have LOTS of eye relief.

 

[SuperCub]

What's it going to turn into Super Cub?

I'm not sure of it's future. I reeeeeally don't need another med or big bore rifle. I'd consider a 404Jeff, but in reality my moose/big bear hunting opportunities here in NB are limited and I do have a 375CT already.

Of course you'll replace that set trigger with a proper single stage trigger!

I had a 602 before with one of these set triggers and liked the "set" option for range use. I don't see what people don't like about them, but am open to good reason.


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