Best full stock rifle?

[eltorro]

There's a long coming on this.
What about the full stock models? Anyone digs them?
how many would buy/try them?
Appealing or not?

Ruger sells one, so does CZ - even though I have no idea who sells them in Canada.
Any issues with them? They used to be rather popular at one time in Europe.
Stutzen - Mannlicher they were called.... or International (added)

 

[1899]

I've had 3 Mannlicher-Schoenauers and a Ruger 77 RSI. I really like them; they are unique, and usually short and handy. My mother used to have one too, a Mark X Stutzen in .243 Win.

My choices, for a stutzen would be: Brno 21D in 7x57, Sako Carbine in .375 H&H, Mannlicher-Schoenauer M1903 in 6.5x54, Ruger 77RSI in .250-3000, Ruger #1 RSI in 7x57, Steyr-Mannlicher L Luxus in .308 Win. That would be a nice little collection!

 

[Why not?]

The little Husqvarna 458 and 456 full stock models are sweet!

Ted

 

[SuperCub]

Remington is making a nice full stock, available from their custom shop in a bunch of cool short action calibers from .222 to 350 RemMag.


http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/custom_shop/seven/model_seven_MS.asp

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[BIGREDD]

Well a "Mannlicher" stock seems impracticle to me... why the extra wieght on a carbine... they are nice to look at but most are not super accurate for the obvious reasons.JBRO

 

[catnthehatt]

Ive owned several in the past and a friend a bunch of them.

I trsaded an older FS Sako in .222 a few years back and it is a very nice little rifle.
HOWEVER, even thopughh I like the No.1 RSI, the only Mannlichers thaat are truly worth having IMHO are the Mannlicher Schoenours, the originals.'
They are slimmer, work better, and have better magazines than the newer American rifles or the CZ's.

Put thhem side by side and you can tell t=right away that the new FS rifles are clunky and very thick in the forends.
Cat

 

[SuperCub]

Well a "Mannlicher" stock seems impracticle to me... why the extra weight on a carbine...

So Redd ...... I'm guessin you prolly drive a Smart Car, as it's VERY lightweight and practical.

Come to think of it ........... a Smart Car is sort of like one of your WSMs.


SHORT, STUBBY, AND EFFICIENT!!

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[BIGREDD]

Well Super ... I am guessing you must feel the need to cover up short barrels... you would be used to that I suppose.

and that's how it starts........................................

 

[SuperCub]

and that's how it starts........................................

Come on Redd, I'm pretty sure you were the captain of the high school debating team. (dream geek)

You should be able to offer a better come-back than that!




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[BIGREDD]

What's High School?... In the trailer park if you failed grade six twice that was considered a grade 12 education!
Seriously... I have seen some outstanding full length stocks ... very pleasing to the eye. I just think they have no practical advantage for accuracy, weight or hunting applications.
Didn't say I didn't like the look of them... no sirreee... theys purty.

 

[AP]

I have had 2... both sako's ( a .243W and a .375H&H ) both are/were very handy - the 243 was/is a dandy deer rifle - light and short - and put 3 x 100gr Nosler partitions in 1.5 inches regularly (the Sako 90gr ammo could do better) - the .375 was very accurate but not as "lively" as the 243 (which was probably a good thing) AP

 

[COREY]

BIGREDD makes a good point, the extra wood does not really serve a practical purpose. The only thing is if guns were used only for parctical purposes there would not be so many different types out there, and so many different ammunition types. I have a Ruger 10/22 International and I love the looks of the beast. I just bought a Ruger #1 in 375; it would have had the full stock on it if they made it. If they made a left handed bolt action rifle with a full stock I would have one in an insant. It does add a bit more wieght to the rifle, but I just love the way they look, and I could use the extra exercise .

 

[luftmech]

I have a BSA stutzen in .308. I removed the stock to see how much the stock weighed and it is a neglible weight. Literally it is a few ounces if that as it tapers quite allot to the muzzle.

 

[SuperCub]

The fullwood look is a throw back from the old fullstock military rifles.

Practically speaking, probably not a good idea, but they do make a nice looking carbine, much nicer than my 760 Carbine or Win M94



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[Mumptia]

I read an article that said the full length stocks have a tendancy to distort the barrel enough to throw the zero out depending on the abient mositure in the air.

Any truth to that?

 

[NAA]

They are classic looking but not my 'cup of tea'...

 

[SuperCub]

I read an article that said the full length stocks have a tendancy to distort the barrel enough to throw the zero out depending on the abient mositure in the air.

Any truth to that?

That's why Remington makes their stocks from laminated wood.




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[Why not?]

..... they are nice to look at but most are not super accurate for the obvious reasons.JBRO

You quite properly used the word "most". Come on, BIGREDD, you know better than that. They are hunting rifles, not super-accurate BR guns!

I know of two that you can shoot under an inch any day you want to take them to the range. Is that accurate enough? Even Marg's 308 Ruger RSI will shoot very close to that, certainly less than an inch and a half!

Ted

 

[BIGREDD]

The classic wood full length stocks are susceptable to changes in weather and pressure, the barrel band is another issue as well as heat dissipation. Now I do realize that some are wicked shooters and I am not slamming them. But generally speaking and in practical terms only they are not my first choice for a hunting rifle... there did I do that without stepping on toes....

 

[Mumptia]

Ever so delicate in true Big Redd fashion.