Best Gun smithing schools

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Interested in knowing where the best gun smithing school is located

Not interested in online, Looking for total immersion 2 year program

I am more than willing/even perfer to attend school in USA

Hoping someone can fast track search for me
 
Last I heard the Colorado school is no longer accepting foreign students, but they may have changed that policy since then. The other top school is in Pennsylvania. It is pricey, but you get a top notch education.
 
I just emailed Colorado, Thanks for info, I wasnt sure sure about thier foreign students program. Pennsylvania would be better geographically. Money is not concern. Will check out Pennsylvania location.

Pennsylvania looks good. I am looking for something in near future as I will be finishing up with army. Thanks for info guys
 
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I know it may not be exactly what you want but The American Gunsmithing Institute has an interesting program, that not only teaches you, but you can get all the equipment needed to start a gunsmithing shop: http://www.americangunsmith.com/. Fill out their form, and they will send you a bunch of stuff, including a sample course to check out for free.
 
Trinidad State Junior College has the best 2 year course that I am aware of... bottom of Colorado. Very pricy today.
 
Pennsylvania runs a two yr crse at 30,000 us. Colorado does not take foreign students. I like the program in Pennsylvania and its close. Total immersion is way I want to go. My time line is 18mths away. Would of been nicer if this school was florida but no schools there. I have a cousin in ohio so thats a plus. Thanks for suggestions
 
I didn't think about it but with all the changes in US laws since 9 1 1 foreign students and gunsmithing courses pose a problem. The foreign student is not able to legally acquire firearms while in the US and to possess a firearm imported into the US requires paperwork as well... paperwork that may not even be available for those purposes.

I see on Trinidad's website it states; All persons enrolled in the Gunsmithing Program must be able to legally own firearms.
 
Google keeps reverting searches back to Canada, but maybe get landed immigrant status? As I understand it that might help? I have no idea if the USA can or will do some sort of short term thing to allow you to study there...
 
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I didn't think about it but with all the changes in US laws since 9 1 1 foreign students and gunsmithing courses pose a problem. The foreign student is not able to legally acquire firearms while in the US and to possess a firearm imported into the US requires paperwork as well... paperwork that may not even be available for those purposes.

I see on Trinidad's website it states; All persons enrolled in the Gunsmithing Program must be able to legally own firearms.
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Yes, school requires member to have FFL and be able to supply themself firearms for some projects. When i get more details, I will post. Among the first issues will be G.E.D certificate and student visa. Will confirm with school as they must have worked out a solution seeing thier course is open to foreign students.
 
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There is a school in Prescott AZ. I know nothing about it except my AZ neighbor is a grad., and has a gunsmith biz in his garage.

Canadians can legally buy, sell, trade, ship and receive firearms in the US. This is not new, the ruling by BATF came several years ago. I carry a copy with me. Most people think it's not so, however there is no federal restriction to firearms ownership in the US. Some states have different rules, however AZ has no restrictions. Convicted felons have a firearms ban, that it. Mark
 
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There is a school in Prescott AZ. I know nothing about it except my AZ neighbor is a grad., and has a gunsmith biz in his garage.

Canadians can legally buy, sell, trade, ship and receive firearms in the US. This is not new, the ruling by BATF came several years ago. I carry a copy with me. Most people think it's not so, however there is no federal restriction to firearms ownership in the US. Some states have different rules, however AZ has no restrictions. Convicted felons have a firearms ban, that it. Mark
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The last info I had (two years ago) - As a resident Canadian and not a resident of the US, you are not allowed to possess firearms or ammunition without a permit in advance, and not allowed to buy or possess brass, bullets, powder, ammunition while simply visiting the US ... all to do with Homeland Security. Many stores don't know it, many people don't either.
 
Whoever told you Canadians can legally buy, sell, trade, ship and receive firearms in the U.S. is very confused. We get no special treatment by the U.S. INS or any other U.S. government organization.
If you are not an immigrating alien, you cannot possess a firearm or ammo unless you're Stateside to hunt or shoot a match. Plus there are Federal and State residency requirements, usually 90 days, before you can do anything.
No FFL either. Requires permanent U.S. citizenship. And if you're not 21 or older, forget it altogether
You need to read the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968 and the ATF's FAQ pages.
 
As usual the ray of sunshine is wrong again. I said I have a copy of the regs. They were sent to me by BATF. Any non immigrant alien who does not need a visa addem to their passport can possess firearms. I have sent these regs to several members here and other sites. Not one has had a problem. I can't transfer them to this forum, nor am I going to copy them here. I type 4 wpm. If you want a copy pm me your fax. The regs forbid export of guns/ammo, and some states have petty requirements, (Wash. state requires a hunting lic.) but there is no federal restriction to actual possession. Some states require residency to buy a gun, but all that is needed is a power bill or such. I use my tax notice.

The US gun control act of 1968 has been amended several times. In AZ for instance a non immigrant alien can open carry. It may even be possible now to get CCW again. The sherifs office in Yuma was non commital, but said retake the course and see what happens. YMMV but this is how it works for me, and at least 2 doz of my friends.
 
For a Canadian tourist it isn't as easy as it sounds... and it does not allow export without using licensed exporters...

Copied and pasted from ATF. http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons#aliens-purchase

A3. An alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa is not prohibited from purchasing, receiving, or possessing a firearm if the alien falls within one of the following exceptions: (1) is in possession of a hunting license or permit lawfully issued by the Federal Government, a State, or local government, or an Indian tribe federally recognized by the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which is valid and unexpired; (2) was admitted to the United States for lawful hunting or sporting purposes; (3) has received a waiver from the prohibition from the Attorney General of the United States; (4) is an official representative of a foreign government who is accredited to the United States Government or the Government’s mission to an international organization having its headquarters in the United States; (5) is en route to or from another country to which that alien is accredited; (6) is an official of a foreign government or a distinguished foreign visitor who has been so designated by the Department of State; or (7) is a foreign law enforcement officer of a friendly foreign government entering the United States on official law enforcement business.
In addition, a nonimmigrant alien legally in the United States with or without a nonimmigrant visa may lawfully acquire a firearm only if he/she meets State of residence requirements as required by the Federal government. For more information, see ATF Ruling 2010-6 at: http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2010-6.pdf.

To acquire a firearm, you must demonstrate the intention of making a home in a particular State. The intention of making a home in a State must be demonstrated to a Federal firearms licensee by presenting valid government issued identification documents indicating an address in the state in which the licensee’s place of business is located. Such documents include, but are not limited to, driver’s licenses, voter registration, tax records, or vehicle registration. For more information, see ATF Ruling 2001-5 available at: http://atf.gov/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2001-5.html.
 
Just a update to this inquiry i made

U.S. Visa and Immigration-‐Related Information
For students interested in studying at Pennsylvania Gunsmith School
We are proud to include many international students as PGS graduates. We will be pleased to assist you as you work through the paperwork necessary in order to study at our school. Your first step is to visit www.ice.gov/sevis for complete information on the steps required. SEVIS stands for Student and Exchange Visitor Information System. Once you are at the home page, click on the For Students link.
The student must apply for admission and be accepted at Pennsylvania Gunsmith School and properly complete SEVIS requirements. Steps include:
❏ Submit PGS application form (available at www.pagunsmith.edu), proof of U.S. High School
Diploma equivalency and the $50 registration fee in U.S. dollars.
❏ Students must also provide to PGS independent verification documentation that sufficient funds exist to complete the 16-‐month, 2500 clock hour program. The student’s financial institution usually faxes this information to the school at (412) 766-‐0855.
❏ PGS generates a SEVIS record and the I-‐20 document required to apply for a Visa. The various Student and Exchange Visas that involve study in the U.S. are described at the SEVIS website.
❏ You may wish to visit www.usembassy.gov for information specific to your home country before you get started. At the earliest opportunity, the student should contact their closest U.S. Embassy or Consulate to make an appointment for a Visa interview. This should
be done promptly, even months prior to your intended start date. A SEVIS fee is required; information is available at the SEVIS website.
❏ Documentation required for your Visa interview includes the I-‐20 document; the Online Nonimmigrant Visa Electronic Application, Form DS-‐160; a valid passport; one 2x2 photograph; and proof of payment of the SEVIS and Visa fees.
❏ Please review the information at the SEVIS website under Important Immigration Documents>Visas>Study>Student Visas-‐Vocational (M Visa). This section includes information about when a Visa may be issued and when you may enter the country after the Visa has been issued. This will allow you to coordinate your Visa issue date and PGS start date.
❏ As a non-‐citizen working with firearms, you will be required to obtain a valid non-‐resident U.S. Hunting License. Visit the Pennsylvania Game Commission website
(www.pgc.state.pa.us) for more information. The fee is approximately $100 U.S. dollars.
We look forward to your future enrollment at Pennsylvania Gunsmith School!
 
Having lived in the US for several years under a TN NAFTA visa (non-immigrating), and having bought numerous firearms legally while I was living there, I can say that it is very much possible and quite easy. You simply need 3 months (90 days) worth of bills from 3 different utility companies to show what you are legally a resident. If you can get a visa for school, you will be legally able to buy firearms after living there 90 days. Make sure your accomodations can provide you with the necessary paperwork. Not sure if a dorm can provide that. I stayed in a hotel for the first month, and that didn't count. I needed 3 months worth of gas, electricity and phone bills. They photocopied them and attached them to the Form 4473.

Now, during that time I did have several rifles and handguns that I brought with me on a Form 6NIA. Brought them back and forth across the border a couple times with no problems. US Customs was fully aware that I was living state side...
 
tj black said:
Pennsylvania runs a two yr crse at 30,000 us. Colorado does not take foreign students. I like the program in Pennsylvania and its close. Total immersion is way I want to go. My time line is 18mths away. Would of been nicer if this school was florida but no schools there. I have a cousin in ohio so thats a plus. Thanks for suggestions
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i wanted to go to PGS in pennsylvania but they have a 3 year wait to get in....
 
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