Best Investment Milsurp

Claven2 said:
smellie:

Except that not all brass is cheaply had. Lebel brass, for example, is expensive when available. Of course, most of the rare calibers are easily formed from other cheaper cases if you have the tools, skills and time.
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Carcano brass sucks to find. Even good x54 is not super common.

smellie said:
With a lathe you can make Swift into Carcano or Mannlicher-Schoenauer.
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Lathe huh?
 
Polish Toks unissued for $225 right now seem like a good investment. Also a crate of 2280 rounds is only $279 which is also a good buy. I can see these doubling in less then 10 years.
 
smellie said:
I simply do NOT understand this terrible problem with ammunition.

The .303 and the .30-'06 and the 7.92x57 and the 7x57 and the 7.65x54 and the 6.5x55 and the 7.5x55 and 7.4x54 and 8x60R Krop and 8x50R and 8x50.5 Lebel and 7.7x56 Jap and 6.5x52 Carcano and 6.5x50SR Jap and a whole bunch of others all cost exactly the SAME.

They all take the same primers, same powders. Only differences are in the bullet diameters and the brass casings.

Once you have the BRASS (which so many guys THROW AWAY), they ALL cost about SIXTY CENTS A SHOT FOR MATCH-GRADE AMMO.

You can make up plinking loads with cast bullets for $1.25 a BOX with the C.E. Harris UNIVERSAL LOAD.

(Of course, that rises all the way to $1.90 a box if you want Gas Checks.)

Handloading is the ONLY WAY to go. Spend $200 on a half-decent set of tooling and a Mould.... and you're in business.

EVEN I can do it!

In the meantime, while you are busily banging off all that cheapo Partizan and S&B ammo, throw your empties my way! It is really DECENT brass!
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So true Smellie!

I own 1/2 a dozen or so milsurps now and shoot regularily, I hit a point before Christmas where I decided handloading was the way to go, simply because I was tired of driving to the city to buy super expensive ammo. For anyone that doesn't handload I must say it's not that hard. I bought Richard Lee's " Modern Handloading Volume 2" and read it. It took all of the mystery out of handloading for me. I bought a Lee classic turret press kit and a set of dies, powder, bullets and some primers and away I went. Even loading .303 with good pre made bullets I cut the cost per round down to about a third of factory ammo.

I just bought my first Mauser in 8x57 and I needed brass, so I bought one box of factory ammo and then went into the shop and found 2 boxes of .270 brass a friend through away and another box of 30/06 from another buddy, thank you very much fellas! I then preceded to convert the 06 and 270 brass to 8x57 which wasn't hard and might I add I have no previous reloading experience other then what I've reloaded since Christmas.

I just ordered moulds for .303 and 8x57 ($40 for both) and now like Smellie said I'll be shooting all day if I choose for what some would pay for 1 box of factory ammo. Not to mention the fact that I'm not wearing out my irreplaceable barrels most numbers matching.

Case in point for the price of one new milsurp, say a Yugo Mauser a fellow can be set up with a good reloading kit, and all of the supplies needed to reload, and if your like me you been saving brass so you won't have to pay for that for awhile.
 
mint to new WW2/ post war etc gun parts would be the money maker. no storage issues. everyone is trying to re-build WW2/post war guns back to original condition. P38 pistols will be in demand. ie where are all of the P4 walther pistols which came mint with holsters from german police surplus...last P38 model. P38/P1 pistols with matching .22 conversion units. P38/P1 post-war models from german police. P1 walthers from Berlin Police, all French made because of the ban on the use of german firearms in Berlin after WW2. All of the pre WW2 HP models , WW2 models and the parts guns assembled by the French after WW2.
 
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