Yeh,if moose ain't going down a cliff, they head for water. The bonded core bullets don't penatrate as well,but they make bigger wound channels. I suggest either the more accurate Accubond or the cheaper,tougher Interbond 180s.You might get lucky and a case full of RL-22 will work for you,otherwise one of the good old 4350s. I like the IMR best.