Best Peep sight for Win 94 (30-30)

I had my gunsmith put a Williams peep on my '94. It cost me $100 with labour. The original front post & bead stayed on the gun (I removed the hood) but I find that the post is not quite tall enough for the peep. I'm shooting 2-3" high at 50 yards (I'd like to shoot 1" high), but I can't drop the peep any lower. In my collection of gun parts I found a front post & bead that is slightly taller so I'm going to in stall it an give it a try.

Ninepointer
 
I've got a Redfield on mine.

No longer made, but virtually identical to the Lyman sight for sale in the Wholesale Sports catalogue.

I 'm shooting high too, but I have some leeway to lower my rear sight still.
 
The receiver sight variety, are all quite comparable. The Williams is aluminum, but very durable, and tends to be cheaper to buy.
The others are steel, quite solid and are a bit nicer to look at, but more money.
If there is an accuracy issue, I can't find it. They are all excallent.
 
I've got a Williams on mine and the receiver was already drilled and tapped for the install. Stock rear sight is removed, front sight modified by filing it into a post.
 
Thanks guys. Sounds like Williams is the way to go. Kind of what I was thinking.
I thought I'd try and make it a wee bit more accurate with the new ammo coming soon.
Is it easy to install or should I get a smith to do it? I"m getting some work done on another rifle so I thought I'd just get him to do it.
I think I'm already drilled and tapped?

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I was completely amazed to find out I can shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with my Win 94 using Winchester Super-X ammo and resting the rifle on a sandbag. I didn't think it was possible. Especially as I looked through the sights. I was getting a lot of verticle variation before I switched to a peep sight and modified the front bead to a post. The globe sight was so big it covered up too much of the target at 100 yards and I couldn't judge where I was placing it on the target vertically.

I think the holes in your receiver look exactly like mine did.
 
John Y Cannuck said:
I left the front bead alone. Worked out fine.
I am concerned with one aspect of the new amo. It may shoot flat enough to require new, taller front sights on some rifles.
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I've had to replace two front sights over the years on two 30-30's shooting 150 gr PP's to match the peep sight. I've used williams and XS/Ashley ghostrings, and though I prefer the XS, the williams does the same thing at half the cost. I've also seen an entire top piece lost on a williams if it isnt tightened properly.
BUt that was shooter error, not the sight. Locktite goes a long way...:D :D
 
Your rifle is drilled and tapped, any sight for a standard '94 will fit those two holes. Use a small screwdriver and remove the plug screws. Install the new rear sight - it should come with the proper 6-48 screws. Some folks prefer to use a bit of Loctite on the mounting screws. Snug the screws up with a properly fitted screwdriver. If your rifle was sighted in with the open sight on the barrel, adjust the peep sight until it is lined up with the open and front sights. Tap out the open sight, install a dovetail filler piece for a neat appearance. Confirm your zero by sighting in on a range with your preferred ammunition. I have a Lyman on my '94. The cheaper Williams does not have click adjustments. You loosen a lockscrew, slide the sight, retighten. Pay a bit more, get one with click adjustments.
 
I also wanted an improved, minimal sight. I thought the lyman/williams sigths were still a little bulky. I ordered one of these for my pre 64 30/30 http://oneraggedhole.com/
It said that they fit "all" winchester levers. All you have to do is unscrew and remove the rear buckhorn site and this rear site just slides over the remaining part. However, I could not for the life of me get it installed on my rifle. I wrote them back and asked and how to install it. Alas, it does not fit on pre 64's. But if it would work, I think it would be great.
 
TonyMo said:
I also wanted an improved, minimal sight. I thought the lyman/williams sigths were still a little bulky. I ordered one of these for my pre 64 30/30 http://oneraggedhole.com/
It said that they fit "all" winchester levers. All you have to do is unscrew and remove the rear buckhorn site and this rear site just slides over the remaining part. However, I could not for the life of me get it installed on my rifle. I wrote them back and asked and how to install it. Alas, it does not fit on pre 64's. But if it would work, I think it would be great.
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You'd be better off with a receiver sight anyways IMO.
The one ragged hole sight is a good fast short range sight, but it loses three of the best advantages of the true peep sights.
1. it is not close enough to the eye for the eye to automatically center in the apperature with any degree of accuracy.
2. it has the same very short sight radius as the original sight, and therefore is no more accurate.
3. the true peep, close to the eye, has very wide field of view. The one ragged hole type sight, like it's predecessor the full buckhorn, blocks much of the sight picture.
 
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John Y Cannuck said:
When hunting close up and bushy terrain, consider taking the aperature out and just using the threaded hole. Very fast.
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I thought that was the very first thing you did when you opened the package:D :D :D
If you tell em that it just threaded into there too keep dirt out like a scope cover, they'll take em out every time, and never miss:D :D :D :cool:
The threaded hole is still smaller than the smallest AO ghost ring that came in my package.
 
After taking out the aperture, does the remaining ring have sufficient thickness for true 'ghost ring' view ? Is one peep better than another for this ?
 
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