Best pistol buy

TNT

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My head is spinning from all the research I've done and I came out more confused.

I hear names like Kimber, Sprinfield, STI, SIG, Glock,etc and everytime I said that is the one, here come some bad reviews that screw everything up.

I am looking for a good semi-auto pistol in either 9mm or .45ACP and I would like a well made gun, dependable, accurate, easy to maintain, the whole story.

I like the 1911 platform and that they are solid, but open for options.

I am waiting to hear about your experiences with different guns and what would you recommend.

Thanks
 
I've tried just about them all...I keep going back to my Springfield XD's. :)
A steel or alloy frame or a Teutonic name does not necessarily a better gun make. ;)
 
Just my thoughts

Of your options there, I would say Sig P22- line. I have a 220 and have had no problems with it. As well I use the P225 at work and again, no problems. I would like to recomend something to you. I know your looking for a 9mm or .45ACP as a first handgun as I did; but after I bought my 220 I found that owning a .22 handgun was a better first purchase. Below is a letter by a fellow CGN'r named bluebell. Recomend you read it. I now own a .22. After using .22's (mines in the mail) I don't think I'll be selling mine any time soon. (Bluebell...kept your real name out of it cause I wasn't sure if you wanted your real name posted.)



So You're Going to Buy a Handgun....
- the do's & don'ts of your first handgun purchase
"BlueBell", NSRA Handgun Instructor
Over the years I have had so many occasions to offer advice on the purchase of a first handgun that it seemed like a good idea to produce a written summary of my recommendations on the subject. The aim of this presentation is to guide the new shooter or the new-to-handguns shooter (who may have years of experience with rifles or shotguns) to obtain, as a first handgun, one with which he/she can develop shooting skill safely, in the quickest time, with maximum enjoyment, and at least cost.
The biggest hurdle to overcome is the preconceived notion in the mind of the prospective handgunner, of the type, or even the exact model, that they have got to have in order to make themselves into a complete man or woman. I have observed that people are much more subjective and emotional about handgun purchasing than they are about buying rifles. This probably explains why so many go wrong regarding their first handgun. Many are the times I have heard: "I want a 9mm....I'm going to get a.45......I really want a .357 mag.....I need (sic) a .40 S&W......,etc.,etc.". Question: Which of these is the best for a first handgun? Answer: None of the
above.
For a first handgun get a .22 rimfire. Whether it should be a double action revolver or semi-auto pistol depends mainly on what type of shooting you plan to do with the .22 and also what you intend to eventually obtain in a centerfire handgun (in the future you will undoubtedly want to get a centerfire, regardless of what you may think now - once bitten by the handgun bug, you stay bit). With your .22, If you plan to shoot ISU bullseye (one-hand) or NSRA service pistol style competitions it would be best to get a semi-auto pistol. Another factor to consider is that most new shooters do better with a pistol than a revolver even in slow, deliberate fire. This is likely because of the way a pistol sits in the hand compared to a revolver.
There are many reasons why a .22 should be your first handgun purchase. All of the target grade .22's, double action revolvers and s-a pistols, sit well in the hand with good balance and "pointability" (especially the pistols), have good adjustable sights, and most importantly - good to excellent trigger pulls AND you can shoot a lot at very low ammo cost. In addition to all of these features there is what is perhaps the most important reason of all: with a .22 you will develop your shooting skill without acquiring an accuracy-destroying flinch induced by noise and recoil. It is much more efficient and effective to start with a .22 instead of with a centerfire.
Initial practice with a .22 definitely develops competency more quickly and muchmore cheaply than does initial practice with a centerfire. Centerfire can come later after you are proficient with a .22 handgun.
Do not get the impression that a .22 is just something with which to start your handgun shooting, only to be sold or put aside later. Target grade .22's are high quality firearms which, with minimal care, have a very long life even if heavily used. All handgun shooters I have known still enjoy shooting their .22's even after they have acquired perhaps several centerfire handguns.
This article will not attempt to steer the prospective first handgun buyer toward which makes and models may be the best. I have some very definite opinions on that subject which I will gladly share with those who wish to contact me. As regards used .22 handguns, there are good buys available and it should be noted that .22 bores virtually never wear out because .22 bullets are fairly soft lead and are lubricated.
Finally, some thoughts on two things not yet mentioned: single action revolvers and .22 conversion kits for centerfire pistols. Single action revolvers are fun to own and fun to shoot, but they are not the thing to learn on - usually heavy, creepy trigger pulls and the awkwardness and slowness of loading / unloading are discouraging factors for the new shooter. Kits for converting centerfire pistols to .22: strongly recommend against using them. Conversion kits cause frustration and are a waste of time and money. They are prone to jamming and are never really accurate. The main problem for the beginning handgun shooter is that you will not be sure - is it me, or is it the gun that is spraying the shots all over the target? This is the sort of thing that you definitely do not want. Furthermore, I have a theory that your brain
and "muscle memory" will be confused if, in the same gun, you sometimes shoot, say 9mm, and other times shoot .22. Much better,in my opinion, to shoot centerfire and .22 in separate guns. Over time, practice with a good .22 will make you a better shot with your centerfire, regardless of what many of the gun magazine writers say; of course, you will need some centerfire practice also.
Footnote: The author of this article does not have a .22 handgun selling
business.
 
1) Choose Gun type: i.e Semi VS Revolver
2) choose flame: i.e Steel VS polymar
3) Style: 1911 VS Service
4) What cal you want
5) Price range
If you like 1911 platform, go for it as they won't go wrong, you can learn more things from 1911 than own the other pistol. That is also why I am going to get one for myself as well.

Trigun
 
I concur entirely with "summerside sniper" in that I made just that very mistake myself of shooting mil spec 9mm fodder(real hot garbage) in my brand new right out of the box Colt Combat Commander before focusing on skills development with my much cheaper 4" fixed sight Taurus .22 wheelgun.(2nd mistake).I wish I still had that '70 series Commander(3rd mistake). Unfortunately being a portsider didn't help matters in finding good target quality rimfires back then.Best quality entry level .22 today? Hands down the Ruger MII Target.It's a no brainer with plenty of em' around used too!
 
pontcanna said:
In terms of best BUY, perhaps you should consider the CZ line.
"Best buy" and "best bang for the buck" are not necessarily the same thing.

With regards to the original question, individual Internet reviews should be taken with a grain of salt. You will find a negative review on pretty much any gun, even the super expensive ones like Sig P210. Some people buy their guns used and don't know what the previous owners did to them, some use poor quality reloaded ammunition, and every company is bound to manufacture a dud every once in a while (though some do it more frequently than others). What you need to do is keep an eye out for widespread and consistent reports on particular malfunctions (such as Kimber's extraction problems, for example) so that you could make an educated choice.

From the research I've done in the past, the guns that seem to receive the least amount of negative reviews are HK, SIG, S&W (revolvers) and Glock. I’ve never owned a Glock but my personal experience with the other three has been positive.
 
Don't know where you live so my advice may not be practical. One of the things that hasn't been touched on is how the pistol fits your hand and how comfortable it is when firing. I have owned Glocks, Sigs, Colts and my current XD40. For me the XD wins. For some reason it fits my hand perfectly while the others did not.

My advice is this. get to a large gun shop and try the feel of as many different models as they carry. Fire them if you can. The more comfortable it is in your hand the more comfortable you will be firing it.
 
Well I love my kimber the most out of all my guns, which include a Glock, XD, DE, and USP. But I'll admit she require more cleaning than say my glock, but I dont mind because its my favorite gun. Deadly accurate, well built, performs flawlessly so far with the 4000 rounds I got through it, factory and reloads.

But if you want low maintenance, XD or USP I think is the way to go. I love my XD45acp almost as much as my Kimber. I like my glock, but after shooting the H&K and XD, Im not sure if I like the grip angle on it anymore. I used to be a big Glock sack rider too, but I may be a convert. :D
 
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pontcanna said:
In terms of best BUY, perhaps you should consider the CZ line.
I agree. $787 shipped to my door for a steel framed 9mm with night sights.

Madness! :runaway:

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If it matters to anyone my first pistol is a Glock 17. I tried 1911 double stack in .40 and Glock 19 and 21. I like the size of the Glock so decided to get one in 9mm. Next on the list is either STI Trojan in .45 or Glock 20.
 
I am a big Sig fan, and I also like my Nork clones of the 1911, CZ and M93. However I will say, go forth, fondle a lot of guns, shoot as many as you can, then decide what you feel good with and fits your budget. A .22cal pistol/revolver will easily pay for itself and is a worthy investment. If you are going to shoot .45acp you better get into reloading. 9mm is cheap and easy to find.
 
I already have a Ruger Single six in .22, so I was looking for the bigger brother.

I used to have a CZ 75 clone in 9mm that wasn't very accurate.

I heard other people praising the new CZ 75 SP-01 and I was curious as what the feeling of the gun is.

Thanks
 
For the money I would buy a refurbed Sig 226 with factory warranty... probably the best of the best for as little as possible cash... maybe 750ish..
 
TNT said:
My head is spinning from all the research I've done and I came out more confused.

I hear names like Kimber, Sprinfield, STI, SIG, Glock,etc and everytime I said that is the one, here come some bad reviews that screw everything up.

I am looking for a good semi-auto pistol in either 9mm or .45ACP and I would like a well made gun, dependable, accurate, easy to maintain, the whole story.

I like the 1911 platform and that they are solid, but open for options.

I am waiting to hear about your experiences with different guns and what would you recommend.

Thanks


I just did the same thing. I bought an HK USP .45. It is sick. Accurate, feels great, nice trigger, great warranty, good value, and it also has an edge to it...the whole HK think. I love it.

1911 though would be a great choice, look at the Springfield GI. Tried Tested and True.. APparently...(I dont have one so I wouldnt really know:rolleyes: )
 
USP said:
For the money I would buy a refurbed Sig 226 with factory warranty... probably the best of the best for as little as possible cash... maybe 750ish..

But for $250 more he could have a USP, brand new...over two years thats like 5 extra bucks a month....;)
 
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