Best Press for Precision Shooting

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I am wondering what the best reloading press would be to reload .308 Win for precision rifle ammo. It's a toss up between the RCBS Rockchucker and Dillon R550B. Plan on doing a fair amount of shooting and looking for match grade results. Any thoughts?
 
Absolutely, the Forster Co-ax, recent tests have shown less run out, and other benefits, when the Co-ax was compared to other presses. The main reason is the "floating" shell holder which allows the case to center itself in the dies, as well as 2 ram arms instead of 1. It also generates more leverage for tough sizing jobs.
 
What style of shooting are you going to do? If you are looking at high volume, positional shooting, the 550B is very hard to beat. If you are planning to shoot benchrest, like Ben says, the Forster Co-ax seems to get good reviews. I have both a RCBS Rockchucker and and a Dillon R550B. The dillon is used for all my 45, 223, 308, 300, and the rockchucker is simply a 308/300 seater at this point.

Once using a 550b, I can not imagine using a rockchucker. The primer tray is always overflowing, and hard to clean, and there are no stations.
 
I kinda do practical rifle shooting with my PGW Coyote, any position, any weather/environmental conditions, any place, any time. I like using the 175gr SMK, had good results. I go through maybe 2-300 rounds a month and am sick of buying match loads when I can get them.
 
IMO, you are on the line as to where to go. If you shot more, you'd probably want the progressive of the 550. If you shot less, you may want to go total precision, and max your accuracy.

Get both a 550, and a Forster Coax. Sell me whichever one you do not want at a discount, and we are all happy. ;)

Either way, I'd stay away from the rockchucker though. Bit of a PITA after using the dillon.
 
I load my match rounds on a RCBS Jr (older model) and it does a fine job. I have even won a match or 2 with the ammo I have loaded on it. :)

A good solid press with match dies (such as Redding Comp Dies) and properly prepped brass is all you need to make match grade ammo.

I would certainly entertain the idea of the Redding Big Boss or Big Boss II if I was to replace my current press.

I usually load anywhere from 50-300 rounds a month depending on the number of matches or the amount of load development or practicing I am doing and find a single stage press works just fine. Lets me take my time to make sure everything is as it should be when I am loading my rounds.

With the brass prepped and primed I can load about 50/hour and that is with double checking my powder loads and checking bullet runout.
 
I think I'm pretty much sold on the Dillon. I'm new to reloading so I figured I should ask the experts. The ammo I will be reloading will go through the same rifle over and over, I hope. Looking for good consistent accuracy out to 800 yards or so with 175gr SMKs.
 
If you're shooting 200-300 rounds a month every month of the year and your loads are close to max, you will also be looking to replace the barrel on that rifle in about 3 years.
There was a recent article in "handloader" magazine about the "rifle ranch" in the US. Mike Venturino did the story and he stated that the fellow that owns/runs the place had a very accurate rifle with about 6000 rounds through it. All were reloads and all were loaded on a manual press, I think it was a "rockchucker". The fellow fully re sized range pick up brass, that was left behind by the students, and only sorted them by headstamp. He full length re sized all of it, used a moderate powder charge that was accurate and seated the bullets to SAMMI specified length. He did nothing else to increase accuracy.
I wish my memory was better. Maybe someone else could chime in here.
To make a long story short, even with a worn throat, the rifle was delivering acceptable accuracy right out to the maximum ranges being shot.
When Mike V borrowed the rifle he was pleasantly surprised by how well the rifle performed, with very little maintenance other than cleaning. I don't recall if the rifle was a custom job or not.
I firmly believe that when we find a load that is accurate in a rifle, we should stick with it. I can understand that different lots of powder and components will have some effect on POI and that's why I am an advocate of buying enough of the needed components to wear out a barrel. Costly, you bet, but bulk pricing will certainly cut costs.
I also used to suffer from the urge to follow the ever elusive "perfect load". I found that if my reloading gear was straight and true and the components were unchanged, that accuracy problems lie elsewhere.
 
I have a Redding Big Boss at the moment (have used it for almost 15yrs) and plan on adding a Co-Ax soon too. For handgun, I have a Dillon SDB. I prefer single stage presses over progressive for loading rifle ammo.
 
I think I'm pretty much sold on the Dillon. I'm new to reloading so I figured I should ask the experts. The ammo I will be reloading will go through the same rifle over and over, I hope. Looking for good consistent accuracy out to 800 yards or so with 175gr SMKs.

If you are looking for accurate loads to shoot out to 800 yards the Dillon 550 is not the press for you. I had one and ended up using it as a single stage press because it would not throw powder charges accurately enough for long range work. Plus or minus .5 grains doesn't cut it at long range. Don't get me wrong a Dillon 550 would be a great press for pistol.

I use a Redding Big Boss now with Redding Comp dies and a new VIC-123 scale that measures down to .02 gr.
 
I agree with Maynard, I use my Co-ax whenever i can and drop all my charges from a powder measure and weigh every load and don't allow 1/10gr. difference. Do you want speed or accuracy with your reloading?
 
I always use a single stage press for rifle ammo only, like my RCBS Rockchucker or my C-H Magnum "H" press. It might be slow, but you want quality ammo, just take your time at it. Never rush, when reloading. My Dillon 550 is mainly for loading pistol ammo. Make sure you get precesion dies they help alot, if your after quality made ammo.
 
I use a Forester Co-ax and it is the best single stage press I have ever used and I have used most of the ones out there. Match it up with some high quality dies, pay attention to details and you shouldn't have a problem loading match quality ammo IMO
 
A single stage press and use meticulous loading techniques.
"...Plus or minus .5 grains doesn't cut it..." Doesn't cut it for hunting either.
 
Not a big deal, get what will not break the bank, good to have a nice set of dies, but again not a big deal.
I took silver with a lee single stage challanger that was all beat up, dog ate the wood ball on the handle, a mess:D, and rcbs dies.:D
 
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Jeeze Levi, you're no fun ;). All we really want is an excuse to buy more toys so keep your practical solutions to yourself K :D?

That said, I understand that the venerable Forster Co-Ax now has a taller yoke so it can accept Redding's venerable Competition dies. This combination should prove ,, venerable.

Hows the dog :eek: ?
 
I think your dies and powder equipment are far more important than the press you use.

I have a Lee Classic Cast that has produced ammo which shot in the .2 to .3" range for me, in three calibers I can think of at the moment. That's with Lee dies too.
 
I am presently really enjoying the Lee breech lock challenger press. This is an extremely well designed and robust press. The breech lock inserts make changing dies super fast and easy.

I use the Lee collet neck die and these can be really hard on a press lever/arms.

This press has lots of heafty steel and is working like a champ. The ram on mine is also interference fit tight. I had to wear it in before it would move easily. No slop in the ram at all. Some new gen RCBS made off shore are having some serious problems with that.

Dies are the real key to making great ammo. Best investment you can make is a runout guage. I use dies from various makes from a huge range of ages. As long as the ammo produced has low runout, don't care if the die set cost $20 or 200.

The runout guage is the only real way to monitor your various steps to let you know what is and what isn't working.

In general, I use the Lee collet neck die for sizing, Redding body die to ensure proper chambering, Forster seater to put those pointy things in straight. Some really like the Redding Bushing die and it makes great ammo but is pricey.

A very important investment you can make is a truly accurate scale with error UNDER 0.1gr. My 223 ammo accuracy really improved as a results of very consistent powder charges.

Even my 6.5's that use up to 49gr of powder have improved when I can load to a kernel or two of powder.

Enjoy your journey. Let me know if I can help you source some gear.

Jerry
 
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