Best recoil pad

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I want to put a recoil pad on my Ithaca/SKB OU 12 ga shotgun I use for club trap shooting and the occasional sporting clays event. It will be a grind to fit model as the factory length fits me well.

Do I go with Pachmayr, Kick Eze or Limbsaver? Doing some surfing, there is a lot of discussion favouring one over another. I don't want a pad too soft or gummy, or one that falls apart after a few years.

Comments/suggestions?
 
For clay games, I think you’ll find the Pachmayr Sporting Clays pad is the best. They aren’t as sticky/gummy as the other two so they are less likely to catch your clothing when mounting and still work very well absorbing recoil.

Patrick
 
Recoil pads are eventually going to fail over time....
Kick eze or Limbsaver have worked well for me.
Never did try out the Browning product that goes into the shirt pocket sewn into the inner of their shooting shirts.
it helps spread the felt recoil over an 8x11 inch area (approximate area).
Shooting for comp is one thing hunting is another.
There is no happy answer just an happy medium in my opinion.
Remington has a nice cushy recoil pad on some of their products, but I can't suggest how long it will last or how good/great it is.
Rob
 
I have several Pachmayr sporting pads and they work well. Some people don't like the ones with the hard plastic cap at the top but It doesn't bother me and it does help with mounting the gun. I find the limbsavers are too sticky and maybe even too soft for my liking.
 
My preference is the Kick-eez. Most of the quality ones are similar in the amount of recoil absorbed, but the Kick-eez seems to look and last the best over time for me.
 
Thanks for the input. I'm generally not that recoil sensitive, but I do shoot a lot of 1 oz. loads and even 7/8 at 16 yards.

I just want to get away from the hard plastic butt plate. I think I'll go for the SC100.
 
For clay games, I think you’ll find the Pachmayr Sporting Clays pad is the best. They aren’t as sticky/gummy as the other two so they are less likely to catch your clothing when mounting and still work very well absorbing recoil.

Patrick

They are a nice pad for a rifle as well.
 
I put a Limbsaver on a 12g after shooting a bunch of 3” sabots with just the plastic butt stock, was sore for a week. Now 3” sabots feel like 2 3/4” 00buck, it really took the bite out of them.
 
I put a Pachmayr Decelerator Old English on my 12 gauge SKB 500 just last week. I wanted to add about a half inch so it was basically square the stock and add the pad. There was very little grinding and the pad looks like it was always there. This pad has a leather like feel and texture to it. I shot 50 or so clays over the weekend and there was no stickiness what so ever.

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I put a Pachmayr Decelerator Old English on my 12 gauge SKB 500 just last week. I wanted to add about a half inch so it was basically square the stock and add the pad. There was very little grinding and the pad looks like it was always there. This pad has a leather like feel and texture to it. I shot 50 or so clays over the weekend and there was no stickiness what so ever.

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That looks great. Well done.
 
I found the Limbsaver difficult to shape properly, even when I froze it as suggested. Finally got it shaped OK but was a PIA. Works very well on my 16ga., was bit sticky at first. They don't give those things away so I was pretty careful. It was my first one as well. It took me a while to cut that stock pretty final step. Not quite up to MK2750 standard.
 
I put a Pachmayr Decelerator Old English on my 12 gauge SKB 500 just last week. I wanted to add about a half inch so it was basically square the stock and add the pad. There was very little grinding and the pad looks like it was always there. This pad has a leather like feel and texture to it. I shot 50 or so clays over the weekend and there was no stickiness what so ever.

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Same one I used on my Auto 5 20 gauge
 
I found the Limbsaver difficult to shape properly, even when I froze it as suggested. Finally got it shaped OK but was a PIA. Works very well on my 16ga., was bit sticky at first. They don't give those things away so I was pretty careful. It was my first one as well. It took me a while to cut that stock pretty final step. Not quite up to MK2750 standard.

I had the same problem with the Limbsavers.
 
Over 50 years of installing recoil pads I have found Pachmayer to be the best and the Decelerator is the best 'soft' pad... I wish the steel plate inside the pad was smaller or better defined on where it is. I have ruined about $300 worth over the years.
 
When I order a pad, what measurement do I use - the butt with existing LOP or after the allowance for the thickness of the pad?
 
When I order a pad, what measurement do I use - the butt with existing LOP or after the allowance for the thickness of the pad?

You mention in your first post that you were to use a grind to fit as the LOP is good. Obviously if the LOP is good you are going to have to cut the thickness of the pad (regardless of thickness) off the stock. Using a grind to fit or other is not changed by LOP. You need a grind to fit as there is no factory option that I know of to fit the SKB shotguns.

The SKB 500 (or mine at least and my 100) is crescent shaped at the butt plate. It needed to be cut anyway just to square it up for the flat recoil pad. NOT for the weak at heart as this need be done on a table saw with some attention to detail. I used a fine tooth blade designed for Malamine and plywood. I taped the area to be cut to avoid splintering, used the top as square, measured twice, had a coffee and filled my mind with negative images, went for a walk, measured twice more and cut. The scary part obviously is that there is no turning back.

My 500 is near mint and I too shoot it very well, however at 13 5/8" LOP I knew it was too short in spite of my shooting it well. I shoot other shotguns on a regular basis and all of them are at or about 14 1/4" LOP which is correct for my arms, build and face structure. The drop is pretty equal or within 1/16" on all of them.

Switching between shotguns is where the troubles would arise, especially on the first or second shots of the day or even shooting a bunch of guns when out for clays as I often do. I grab my Beretta or FAIR and it would get caught up on my jacket or shoulder awkwardly after shooting the SKBs. It was either shorten all my other (read much more valuable) or the SKBs.

What I am trying to get at is that you should be absolutely sure of your proper LOP before chopping a shotgun and just because you have adapted to a certain LOP and shoot it well does not mean it is correct. If the LOP is wrong you may experience the exact same uncomfortable recoil that you experienced before the procedure. I had a vintage 250 Savage that was a way too short for me and I would rather shoot a well fitted magnum rifle all day than that little beast.

What I had the luxury of doing, was to take exact measurements of other shotguns that I shoot as good or better and try different thicknesses by taping spacers to the end of the SKB and trying them. Once I was able to switch between shotguns without any adjustment, I knew I had it perfect.

You probably already know all that so please don't take the above as condescending. I have screwed up more than my share of pretty simple projects and just want to save you some possible frustration.

Once you have the stock cut to the right length, it is from that you would make a template or take measurements. The specs for the actual pads are on line but I just took my plate with me as there is two stores here that carry a good selection.

I am 99.9% sure it was the small Old English that fits the SKBs but I don't know the others.

Another thing that worked very well for me was using the silver tape that HVAC guys use for masking off the stock before hitting the bench grinder. This stuff is expensive but if you walk into a furnace place, they many give or sell you all you need. I am in the industry so a freebee. It sticks really good (very hard to remove) but allows for a little touch or two without damaging the stock. I used lemon oil as lubricant and it too worked much better (smelled much much better) than petroleum type lubricants that can in fact damage the pad. Once you get it very close, the final work need be done by hand. I wrapped fine emery paper over a file for the finish work.

Good luck.
 
Thanks for the info. I once fit a recoil pad to a Browning DA. I did a rough cut with a hack saw(!) and a LOT of hand sanding thereafter. I lived in an apartment at the time and didn't have so much as a padded vise to hold the gun. It actually turned out well, but it was labour intensive to the extreme.

Recently I had the stock of a [JM] Marlin 45-70 shortened 3/4" by a local 'smith who does custom LR rifles. He did a good job and it looks like factory new. I'll get him to do the job.

I have a 20 ga SKB OU as well, and both fit me well with the factory 14" LOP. I just won a prize at our Xmas turkey shoot in the intermediate class with the 12 ga so it seems to fit.

Strikes me that the difficult part might be in establishing the correct angle for the cut due to the curve. Once that is established, it's just "Gulp & cut".

I have a pair of M12s in MC, one that was cut for me by a knowledgeable trapshooter years ago and he installed a 1" red Decelerator pad. With this gun, I can shoot up to 100 1-1/8 oz. loads before I get a recoil headache. It too has a 14' LOP. And a second M12 in FC with an old ventilated pad that fits me well with again, a 14" LOP.

This shotgunning is starting to get a hold on me and I certainly have the guns to play with. Can't justify a Browning, Perazzi or Beretta yet, but I sure have fun with the SKBs!
 
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