Best Scope Mount/rings for a Precision Rifle

JNA

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Hi Guys,

Well I am saving up for a gift to myself, which will be a PGW Coyote with an S&B Scope and am trying to figure out what the best scope mount/rings would be? Currently I have it down to the NEAR Alphamount and the Spuhr mounts. Any recommendations from owners or any other rings/mounts I should take a look at?
 
I have Ken Farrell base and rings that are what the others try to copy. Look at their website Ken Farrell.com. Or Prophet River sells them.
 
Depends on what kind of shooting you want to do. I much prefer one piece mounts over rings. If the rifle is only going to be shot prone, then I would go with a Spuhr mount. For a rifle that will be shot in supported and unsupported positions, I use a cantilever mount like the NF Unimount or the new Badger Unimount.
 
My buddy has a Spuhr and I have Near Alpha on our TRG42's

It is neat that the Sphur is narrower since the fasterners are mounted at an angle, but when I got behind both rifles, don't think there is a real world advantage . The spirit level again is neat, but I personally prefer the level off the LHS like the USO unit . Found it easier than peering under the huge occular of the S&B ! You can get a better "straight on " look with it off to the side

The Alpha is available in a large array of cants and heights ...just tell him your scope and action / barrel and how far you want to reachout and he will figure the rest out

I personally prefer to support Canadian manufacturers as well

Lastly, Richard Near is awesome to deal with . When I bought Alpha from him he realized that I had a NEAR base which was a older model ( no TRG recoil lugs which I had for over 5 years ! ) he sent me a brand new base to go with the Alpha at no charge !

I have a NF Unimount and don't like how close the cross bolts are and the cantilever design....you don't really need the cantilever for the eye relief on a bolt gun . Having said that, its a also at lot less money

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you don't really need the cantilever for the eye relief on a bolt gun that's only going to be shot prone.

Fixed it for you.

There's a reason a bunch of companies have started making them for bolt guns and why GAP chose to go with an extended rail over an integrated one that only goes to the end of the recoil lug on their new Tempest action.
 
I have a Coyote and have a Leupold Mark 4, 8.5-25x50 mounted with Mark 4 rings. This set up has not moved or needed to be tightened for the last four years since it was first mounted (and it's still the most accurate field gun I own). Phil.
 
Fixed it for you.

There's a reason a bunch of companies have started making them for bolt guns and why GAP chose to go with an extended rail over an integrated one that only goes to the end of the recoil lug on their new Tempest action.

Fair enough, but all the guys with bolt guns and straight up mounts can't shoot anything but prone ? Not even sure what to say since 99% of the hunting rifles ( typically shot offhand ) don't need to cantilever scope forward for proper eye relief

I have shot my TRG's , my AI, all my hunting bolt guns offhand ( although the AI and TRG is a bit heavy if not leaning on a tree ! ) and NON prone just fine

I guess if you have a particular setup that needs to move the scope forward then by all means.

Just because a bunch of companies started making them doesn't mean that what has worked great for years doesn't anymore .

My AI has a Nighforce Unimount cantilever since it was the only mount I had on hand that had 20MOA and would just clear the barrel . This setup has perfect eye relief for me both prone / offhand etc shooting

The reason Its not my first choice is see pic below . I assure you there is some flex when you push down on the front of the scope ( the beloved Larue SPR mount is worst ) . Does it really matter it flexes.. NO...which is why I can't justify spending $400 on another Alpha

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At any rate, if OP wants to look at alternative to Sphur and NEAR Alpha, you might want to look into the ERA TAC ( ht p://era-tac.de/index.php/en ) . Handled one and was impressed enough bought one for future projects

Typical German engineering !
 
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Here are a few images to explain this further.

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When you get into odd positions, your head is often way more forward that it is in prone or in standing. The scope needs to be moved forward. Look at where his front ring is. He could not move that scope any further forward.


This shooter also has his scope as forward as it will go with rings:

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This can cause problems like binding the parallax adjustment if the ring is too tight.

Also, consider that you are dealing with rifles that have pretty heavy barrels. If you support the rifle like the guy below, you're going to use a lot of muscle support. You definitely need a sling, especially with a tactical rig. But, getting in and out of a sling takes time. It's cumbersome if there is a standing shot in the middle of a bunch of other positions.

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If you shorten the stock and move the scope forward, you can get your supporting forearm more vertical like this:

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You're elbow is then supported by your body and the hold uses mostly bone support instead of muscle support. The sling support is not needed. It may still help, but if you need to transitions quickly in and out for the shot, it may be more advantageous not to use it.

If you look at the height of many of those cantilever mounts, they are way too low to work on an AR. They were designed for boltguns. Many of the newer scopes have pretty long eye relief and simply cannot be mounted far enough forward for them to work well in positional shooting on a receiver with an integrated rail with rings or a mount that is not cantilevered. So there is a trend to use these or go back to receivers that can use extended rails.
 
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Ahhhh...those pics greatly clarify what you are talking about . Thanks for taking the time to explain

I can see why you would need cantilever in those situations
 
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