Best Tactical .22 - Please Help Me Choose!

I am waiting for 1 of these...

I think I am in the same boat as you so I am going to wait for 1 of these to be released next year as the restricted PLR-22 has been released this year. @ 4lbs & an AR15 but stock plus a black dog 50 round drum I think plinking will be at a whole new level of non-restricted goodness!
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little_airwolf said:
The mag needs to be pinned to 10 because it also fit the pistol. Yes you can have a drum but do your research, the drums are problematic. I do know my facts thank you very much!
Who would want a 10 round tactical gun?
That it why there is sooo much fuss about this gun right now!
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The fuss is about the magazines in question, not the gun. It was incorrect for you to say that the gun can't legally take more than 10 rounds, as it is not the case.

And it doesn't need to be pinned because it fits the pistol : it needs to be pinned because it is MANUFACTURED for the pistol, as advertised by S&W.

If you knew your facts, you'd know that the RCMP has ruled on this issue on many occasions. Doesn't matter what firearm your mag fits into, what matters is what it was manufactured for. This is precisely why you can use LAR 10-round mags in rifles that usually are limited to 5 rounds.

And by the way, a LOT of people have tactical rifles that hold 5 or 10 rounds. As soon as its centerfire, thats your only option.


Thank you very much.
 
little_airwolf said:
Wow, someone need to change his man size diapers or take some pills!
Again the fact is it's restricted and that's not what he is looking for anyway.
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I simply wanted to point out the fact that you were giving innacurate information regarding the mag capacity of this rifle. You childishly insisted that you knew your stuff. Which you didn't. Again, just pointing it out for your own benefit and for the sake of not giving the OP false info.
 
sewktbk said:
The fuss is about the magazines in question, not the gun. It was incorrect for you to say that the gun can't legally take more than 10 rounds, as it is not the case.

And it doesn't need to be pinned because it fits the pistol : it needs to be pinned because it is MANUFACTURED for the pistol, as advertised by S&W.

If you knew your facts, you'd know that the RCMP has ruled on this issue on many occasions. Doesn't matter what firearm your mag fits into, what matters is what it was manufactured for. This is precisely why you can use LAR 10-round mags in rifles that usually are limited to 5 rounds.

And by the way, a LOT of people have tactical rifles that hold 5 or 10 rounds. As soon as its centerfire, thats your only option.


Thank you very much.
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Are you saying that someone could purchase the PLR-22, and then fire a magazine larger than 10 rounds if it is an SU-22 magazine?
 
Verdical Driver said:
Are you saying that someone could purchase the PLR-22, and then fire a magazine larger than 10 rounds if it is an SU-22 magazine?
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Technically, if the SU-22 magazine with a 25-round capacity was specifically manufactured for the rifle only and just happens to fit in the pistol version, yes, you can use it in the PLR-22.

BUT

if KelTec manufactures a single magazine for both versions of the gun, and clearly indicates that this mag is both for rifle and pistol, then the pistol mag limit applies to that magazine, no matter what firearm it is used in.

Again, the important thing is what the magazine was designed and manufactured for. There is no such thing as prohibition of using a specific mag in a specific firearm : if it fits in it and feeds it, good for you. The capacity limit of that magazine is solely based on what it was manufactured for, not on what it may fit in.

There are countless threads on this, with detailed explanations from dealers.
 
little_airwolf said:
little_airwolf said:
Also the S&W M&P 15/22 needs to be pined to 10 rounds in canada.QUOTE]

I did not say you can't have a drum mag did I?
I just said the mag has to be pinned.
That again is the fact. I wasn't missleading anyone!!!!
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Um...I read it this way: Also the S&W M&P 15/22 needs to be pined to 10 rounds in canada. I still dont see where you mentioned the mag, only the rifle. sewktbk is right, and surely knows what he is talking about. If that drum is ever marketed for the pistol, it will need to be pinned too. And as for "who wants a 10 rd. tactical gun", just head on over to the B&G rifles forum, you'll meet plenty of em.
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little_airwolf said:
Also the S&W M&P 15/22 needs to be pined to 10 rounds in canada.QUOTE]

I did not say you can't have a drum mag did I?
I just said the mag has to be pinned.
That again is the fact. I wasn't missleading anyone!!!!
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So why would you say :

Who would want a 10 round tactical gun?
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If you agree that you can use an unpinned 50-round drum mag in it???

I'll say this again : the requirement to pin the mag only applies to the original 25-round magazine that S&W also manufactures as a pistol mag. You do not need to pin the Black Dog 50-round mag, as it is technically only manufactured for the rifle. It only happens to fit in the pistol version.

so yes, you were misleading, as you still seem convinced that ALL mags for this rifle need to be pinned. Which is not the case.
 
Why not just a normal 10/22,? Why does it always have to be tacticool??
Do you play COD???
Im joking.
Try a 10/22 with a tapco stock, cheaper and lighter then an Archangel kit and looks more like AR style..
 
sewktbk said:
So why would you say :



If you agree that you can use an unpinned 50-round drum mag in it???

I'll say this again : the requirement to pin the mag only applies to the original 25-round magazine that S&W also manufactures as a pistol mag. You do not need to pin the Black Dog 50-round mag, as it is technically only manufactured for the rifle. It only happens to fit in the pistol version.

so yes, you were misleading, as you still seem convinced that ALL mags for this rifle need to be pinned. Which is not the case.
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Did I say all magazines for all rifles need to be pinned? Did I mention the drum mag?
Again I did not misslead at all.:mad:

Gurr some peoples kids!!!
 
little_airwolf said:
Did I say all magazines for all rifles need to be pinned?
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No, but you mentionned that all mags for the M&P 15/22 specifically needed to be pinned.

And this is NOT correct. Which i've been trying to explain to you for the last page, but somehow you bend my explainations out of shape.
 
little_airwolf said:
I did not say you can't have a drum mag did I?
I just said the mag has to be pinned.
That again is the fact. I wasn't missleading anyone!!!!
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NO, the 50-round drum mag manufactured by Black Dog for the M&P 15/22 does NOT need to be pinned.

Only the 25-round original mag needs to be, as it is also manufactured for the pistol.


little_airwolf said:
Who would want a 10 round tactical gun?
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It is NOT a 10-round tactical gun if the 50-round drum mag for it is legal, now is it???

:HR:

You WERE misleading.

Geeze. I'm not inventing anything, i just quoted you.
 
Ballox said:
How about an ISSC MK22
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I took my brand new ISSC SCAR look-alike out shooting yesterday. It's a hoot to shoot. I obtained two groups under an 1" - at 25 m with 22 rounds - in each group (a full mag damped in each target). Not a single malfunction in over 150 rounds of Federal bulk ammo. I used a dot sight, maybe with a scope I could have done better. The trigger pull could stand an improvement but overall and great rifle.
 
Congrats on the MK22. I hope it works well for you. I was abit chicken when I heard all the bad reviews. The price tag also scared me off. Atleast you don't need to upgrade anything, unlike the 10/22s.
 
little_airwolf said:
Congrats on the MK22. I hope it works well for you. I was abit chicken when I heard all the bad reviews. The price tag also scared me off. Atleast you don't need to upgrade anything, unlike the 10/22s.
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I had not heard of the bad reviews and I'm glad (so far) I didn't. I had seen the video on the Military Channel and it was great. A friend of mine in Holland has one and he loves it, no problems. I hope it will continue to be trouble free. Interestingly, it's made in Germany not Austria. Its accuracy was something that took me by surprise, most look-alikes are known for their accuracy.
 
I love my SR-22 - very cool looking rifle and feels great - much solider than many of the cheaper tacticools - the Mossberg feels like cheap s**t plastic when you handle it by comparison.

Only issue with the SR-22 is it is not the most accurate of my .22s. I am getting at best 2 in groups at 50 yards using Federal bulk. My cheapo Nornico JW-14 hits close to 1 inch as does my prewar Browning FN Trombone.

If it wasn't prohibited (what a stupid decision) I would have loved to get my hands on the Sig 522 just because I love Sigs.

10/22 with an archangel stock seems the way to go if you don't like the SR-22.

When you go hi cap be careful of the Pro-mag 50 drum - they work well with the right ammo but are a right pain in the butt to load. Butler Creek 25s work flawlessly and the speedloader for them is very slick once you get the hang of it. For some reason the BC speedloader does not fit the Pro-mag drum
 
Ruger immediately went off my potential buy list when they released their new BX-25 mag and advertised it for their Charger pistol. They are also very overpriced for what they are. Aftermarket parts? Who cares when you pay enough to have an accurate rifle to begin with. And they're only accurate after spending more money to mod the barrel on top of the original price.
 
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