Best Tactical Rifle for under $1000.00

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I'm sure this question has come up in the past but... I'm looking for a tactical rifle for under a grand including a scope. Is this an unreasonable request or are there some makes of new rifles like Savage that have anything of value.
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^^^^^^^Look way up at the forum title. ^^^^^^

This is the LONG RANGE COMPETITION forum.

Your post does not belong here. It should be in either the Precision rifles forum or the Equipment exchange.

From the looks of your post you're trying to start a flame war.
 
No worries, ask a moderator to move it for you.

As for a rifle; have you passed the Canadian Forces Sniper School? :D

Sorry, needed to clarify that. A sniper rifle isn't a specfic gun, it's a designation for a gun used by a military or police sniper that uses it in course of his or her duties.

To be perfectly honest, most actual sniper rifles in service nowadays aren't as accurate as a a dedicated precision rifle; most only have to hold 1 minute of angle or better (roughly 1" at 100 yards, 2" at 200 yards, and that's the US Army's requirement). The Canadian forces requirement is a 90% hit probability at 1200 meters (PGW claims 0.75 MOA or better with appropriate ammo). Doesn't say headshot or whatever, just says you need to hit a man sized target.

Comparitively a tuned benchresh can do 0.5 MOA or better, and 0.25 MOA isn't unheard of with the luckiest of shooters.


Hope this clarifies some things.
 
Simple answer to your question - a rifle like a Remington SPS Tactical in either .223 or .308 can be had for a bit less than $700 and you can add to that something like an Elite 3200 10x for around $300. Rings and bases and a bipod and you have a starter setup, Your options widen up considerably if you move the budget to $1500.
 
Simple answer to your question - a rifle like a Remington SPS Tactical in either .223 or .308 can be had for a bit less than $700 and you can add to that something like an Elite 3200 10x for around $300. Rings and bases and a bipod and you have a starter setup, Your options widen up considerably if you move the budget to $1500.

More like the answer I was looking for... Thanks.
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Stillar,

I bought a Savage model 10 precision carbine...that thing is absolutely a tack driver....I have less than 0.50" at 100 yards many times over...I bought my rig from a CGN'r for $600; I think they are around $800-900 brand new... and then the rings, rail and scope....Keep looking on CGN and something will come up that will suit your needs/budget. You can always trade up on CGN later...

I have quite a few REM 700's...Tomochan is right...the SPS DM's are nice and fairly accurate out of the box

Rosie
 
I'm sure this question has come up in the past but... I'm looking for a tactical rifle for under a grand including a scope. Is this an unreasonable request or are there some makes of new rifles like Savage that have anything of value.
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I'm hoping that the thousand dollar limit is for just the rifle. The rule of thumb I've been told my whole life is to budget about as much for optics, rings bases, rails, etc as you would for the rifle. Especially for factory rifles.

This means you should expect your total price tag to be between $1750-2000.
If the 1000 is for the whole set up, then yes, it is a bit unreasonable.

There are threads dedicated to defining what a person means by Sniper Rifle, or Tactical Rifle, or Precision rifle. The obvious question for you is what are you going to do with the rifle.

Some people just want a tacticool looking rifle that they can show their friends and take some photos for face book. A .22 Savage Mark 2 TRR, Tasco scope and a couple cans of spray paint will get you something movie worthy and shoot quite well @ 50 Yards.

If your local range only goes out to 200-300 meters, then I think most people would recommend a remmy 700 in .223 or .308. If have somewhere you can shoot out past 500, then most would say that the .308 is a must. (unless you reload, have alot of spare time, the eye of an artist and the mind of an engineer, you can join the club of people who are proving that .223 is capable out to 1000 yards and beyond). The SPS tactical has a short 20" heavy barrell. Easy to carry, won't over heat too quickly, and the short size makes it very packable.
The SPS varmint with its 26" barrel will give you better performance, but is a little less wieldy, but I think would be the better choice for accuracy. Both are about $600 and should be in stock at most gun stores.

For a scope any of the bushnell 3200/4200 should meet your needs, but you'd be hard pressed to build this set up for under $1000 using new components. Don't forget about Bipod, spare mags, sling, MOA Rail if required, etc. $1200 might be a bit more realistic. A little bit of patience and effort and you could probably source a good scope and bits on the exchange forum.

The big limiting factor that ruins the TACTICAL aspect of most remingtons is the magazing options. Detachable mags inside a hinged floor plate, or internal box mags is not my idea of tactical. Modifying a stock to take proper magazines is less than ideal. Any of the reputable stocks out there, HS Precision, Macmillan, Accuracy Internation etc, are going to blow your $1000 budget all by themselves. The MDT 21 Tac chassis available from MYSTIC PRECISION looks awesome, but again, at the $1000 mark.

For a proper "Sniper Weapon System", look at what actual snipers use. Canada recently aquired the PGW Timberwolf chambered in 338 Lapua, retails for $6700, not including scope, bi-pod spare mags or any other bits that a "Sniper" would consider essential, like 5 spare mags. Timberwolfs little brother, the .308 Coyote still retails for 4800 on special. Extras not included.

The American military and IDF uses the M24, built on a Remington action in an HS precision stock. Hard to find total retail price but if you look up the sub components, you would still be well over 3500 dollars.

The Sako Trgs, 22 (.308) and 42 (338 LM) are good shooters, but hover in the $3000-$4000.

The list goes on.

Bottom line, if you want a GUN that can be used effectively out to medium range 300-800, is packable and tacticool looking, it can be done for under $1000, but that really is low end.
 
Simple answer to your question - a rifle like a Remington SPS Tactical in either .223 or .308 can be had for a bit less than $700 and you can add to that something like an Elite 3200 10x for around $300. Rings and bases and a bipod and you have a starter setup, Your options widen up considerably if you move the budget to $1500.

Thanks everyone... I purchased a Remington 700 sps Tactical rifle in .308 with the Elite 3200 10x and a Harris bipod on CGN for $900.00. Just a couple boxes of ammo down the tube. :)
 
Thanks everyone... I purchased a Remington 700 sps Tactical rifle in .308 with the Elite 3200 10x and a Harris bipod on CGN for $900.00. Just a couple boxes of ammo down the tube. :)

good find, now edit your title to remove 'sniper' . very politically incorrect, it implies that you will be shooting at people.
 
how about "furry friend sniper" :p


I'm against shooting animals... They should at least have to buy a tag!

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I'm against shooting animals... They should at least have to buy a tag!

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I love this picture..

The reason I wanted a Tactical rifle was because I wanted to shoot deer from several hundred yards across my farm fields and not wound any deer (just kill them) in the process. With a little practice and a deer tag this should now be possible. :)
 
I love this picture..

The reason I wanted a Tactical rifle was because I wanted to shoot deer from several hundred yards across my farm fields and not wound any deer (just kill them) in the process. With a little practice and a deer tag this should now be possible. :)

Just remember the gun is only as accurate as the shooter, just on an ethical point alone you need to practice on steel and paper before you try to shoot an animal at range. Just my rule of thumb but if I cant hit a pop can at x range consistantly I won't shoot at an animal at that range either. On the plus side practising is FUN.
 
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