Best Type 81 model
- Thread starter Plinkingaway
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No. The length of pull is the distance between the trigger and the end of the stock where it sits against your shoulder. I was ready to buy the underfolder until I held one at Taccom. It felt too long. The fixed stock version felt better.
I finally got round to shooting my lmg and really liked it.
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Canuckguns
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The side folders build quality is just amazing. The metal finish/bluing is done so good, the hand guard is sleek not bulky, nice to shoot. Under folders are nice to but the phosphate finish isn’t the greatest gets scratched easily, hand guard is bulky just like the lmg.
There's no true answer because each model has its own pros and cons. Generally from what I've seen here's what to avoid. 1: 2017 initial imports. The first T81's especially the side folders had a massive QC issue with bent front trunnions which would commonly be referred to as having bent barrels. The barrels themselves were straight but in the assembly process the trunnion would possibly not be put in correctly resulting in a barrel that would be canted to the left or the right. The rifle could still be shot accurately when using the iron sights as the would still line up correctly however, this issue would make optic mounting almost impossible due to the deviation as even 1 mm to the left or right would significantly throw your shot off at 100 yds/m. Unfortunately this issue was overlooked in the initial import as turns out bent trunnions are fairly standard and considered in spec by the PLA. There is no fix to this issue unless you are capable of machining a new trunnion and fitting it in correctly. Thankfully this issue has since been addressed and mostly resolved 2: T81M under folders. They are a neat rifle, a nice variety change to the Canadian market, a great looking rifle and a nice throwback to some of norincos first EM series prototypes for the American market. The issue lies in its stock however. If comblock underfolders are known for anything it would be 2 things; stock creak and not being the most comfortable to use. Comblock underfolders can and most likely will develop stock creak and play with usage and time which can be annoying. The other issue is with the length of the stock itself. Unlike AK underfolders, the T81 underfolder has to be longer to accomodate for the mag which sits further away from the trigger than on an AK, though not an issue for some, this can result in a stock that has a rather large LOP. Aditionally, having an underfolder does further restrict you from optic mounting optics which are already limited on the T81 as is. The stock unfortunatley gets in the way of dovetail mounts and that leaves you with only a few options; leave the stock permanently open and fix a dovetail to the reciever, 2 get a rear sight mounted rail and mount an optic to it (can be hard to find and limits you to small collamitor sights), 3 find one of those lowpro adapters that mount to the hammer and trigger pin whithout obstructing the stock (these can also be difficult to find and also limit you in what sights you can run). The underfolder is a cool gun but, IMO unless you plan on running it stock, id say its worth saving and extra 100 or 200 and finding a fixed stock variant to run. As to what I would reccomend? If you want good quality and on a budget run an LMG, ive owned one before and they are great and fairly accurate. If you have the extra money and want something shorter or lighter with a fixed stock, try an 81M if you can find one cheap or a 2018 SE fixed stock, if you want a dragunov clone and are fine with limited mods, run an SR. If you have the money, want a light, compact gun thats built well and has a folding stock, run a 2018 SE folder.
Or they are shaped like a normal Caucasian. Rasputins #### is literally longer then a Type 81-1s buttstock lol
Tomasaurus
CGN Regular
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- SW Ontario
underfolder
Side folder is the most comfortable and feels the best in hand. Underfolder is the best looking. The lmg and Sr are too heavy / bulky.
I have had all of the above including fixed stock. Only one I kept was Underfolder.
If they made a t81e with side folder, slim handguard and light barrel that would be the one on my wall.
I have had all of the above including fixed stock. Only one I kept was Underfolder.
If they made a t81e with side folder, slim handguard and light barrel that would be the one on my wall.
Really depends what you are looking for in the rifle. In my opinion, the LMG is the best quality of the models. Its fit and finish is better, and even the stamping of the top cover is more detailed. The longer heavy barrel makes is nicer to shoot from a table at the range. The UF looks slick, but stock is a little wobbly. And the SE looks great as well, but seems to have very soft wood and finish is easily damaged. All the 3 that I have shot have has good barrel to trunnion alignment, at least by eye. Can't go wrong with either as long as they are in decent shape.
