Best Welfare rifle?
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Just when I thought I had completely lost interest in this "welfare" thread...
I noted yesterday while reading a biography of Samuel Colt (the fellow who produced the Colt revolver) that Sam Colt's father was on welfare for a time...
...and here's my first submission for the ideal billionaire's rifle:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1432573-Phenomenal-Westley-Richards
I noted yesterday while reading a biography of Samuel Colt (the fellow who produced the Colt revolver) that Sam Colt's father was on welfare for a time...
...and here's my first submission for the ideal billionaire's rifle:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1432573-Phenomenal-Westley-Richards
nowarningshot
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Some pretty frustrated, angry people on this thread.
The best gun for someone on welfare is not a invitation for a debate on the merits of the welfare system, or the people on welfare.
People will find a way to survive. So to me a basic subsistence rifle with open sites, shooting ammo found in any small town. I would doubt that a optic could be afforded, might have been on the rifle for the last 50 years, but unlikely they shoot thousands of rounds with $3000 optics and worry about 1/2 moa. Minute of deer or moose. Someone is not going to reload, more likely one box of factory ammo lasts years.
Plain simple rifles in common calibers, often converted milsurps or family pieces.
Such as:
Ross 303
Lee Enfield 303
1903 Springfield 30-06
M1914 and M1917 ....303 and 30-06
M1894 30-30 or 32 special
Old Mauser conversion.
The best gun for someone on welfare is not a invitation for a debate on the merits of the welfare system, or the people on welfare.
People will find a way to survive. So to me a basic subsistence rifle with open sites, shooting ammo found in any small town. I would doubt that a optic could be afforded, might have been on the rifle for the last 50 years, but unlikely they shoot thousands of rounds with $3000 optics and worry about 1/2 moa. Minute of deer or moose. Someone is not going to reload, more likely one box of factory ammo lasts years.
Plain simple rifles in common calibers, often converted milsurps or family pieces.
Such as:
Ross 303
Lee Enfield 303
1903 Springfield 30-06
M1914 and M1917 ....303 and 30-06
M1894 30-30 or 32 special
Old Mauser conversion.
Some on here need to take a step back and realize life can throw a screw into the best laid plans in an instant. I have lived it, never on welfare but there may have been a time or two it was damn close.
Before any opens their mouth I consider myself far from lazy. started picking tobacco at age 12 and I never saw a dime as the cheques went straight to my parents. Just the way it was. Moved out at 16 worked in a furniture factory nights and finished high school through the day. Started a plumbing apprenticeship at 18 and got a steam ticket along the way and spent the better part of 25 years in the business. Somewhere in that time started raising my daughter on my own when she was 3.
About the time she was 7 things got interesting. Hurt myself at work, bad, and learned the adage of "You pay insurance in hopes you never use it". It turned into a legal clusterf k that would last 8 years. After healing for 18 months i am told to find a desk job as the heavy commercial/industrial work I was doing would cripple me. Retrained on my own dime, what little savings I had raising a kid on my own went quick. Then had to build a business with my new skills which has turned out great in some respects.
My point being you do not know what tomorrow will bring and I made sure I kept a couple guns(243 and 12ga) in case the time came to have put meat on the table. I will tell you that if it wasn't for "government beef" and a garden in the yard those 2-3 years would have turned out quite differently. Add the fact my kid cannot eat wheat, rye oats or barley and the menu was interesting some days.
That is why every year a bag or two of venison goes to a needy family or two. Live on the edge for a while and you learn a whole new appreciation of life and how fickle it can be.
Before any opens their mouth I consider myself far from lazy. started picking tobacco at age 12 and I never saw a dime as the cheques went straight to my parents. Just the way it was. Moved out at 16 worked in a furniture factory nights and finished high school through the day. Started a plumbing apprenticeship at 18 and got a steam ticket along the way and spent the better part of 25 years in the business. Somewhere in that time started raising my daughter on my own when she was 3.
About the time she was 7 things got interesting. Hurt myself at work, bad, and learned the adage of "You pay insurance in hopes you never use it". It turned into a legal clusterf k that would last 8 years. After healing for 18 months i am told to find a desk job as the heavy commercial/industrial work I was doing would cripple me. Retrained on my own dime, what little savings I had raising a kid on my own went quick. Then had to build a business with my new skills which has turned out great in some respects.
My point being you do not know what tomorrow will bring and I made sure I kept a couple guns(243 and 12ga) in case the time came to have put meat on the table. I will tell you that if it wasn't for "government beef" and a garden in the yard those 2-3 years would have turned out quite differently. Add the fact my kid cannot eat wheat, rye oats or barley and the menu was interesting some days.
That is why every year a bag or two of venison goes to a needy family or two. Live on the edge for a while and you learn a whole new appreciation of life and how fickle it can be.
The voice of reason. Thank you hunter148.
Have seen A LOT of the world, far more than most ever will and the majority here just don't have the slightest clue or we wouldn't be seeing a lot of the BS "opinions" guys are posting. Lots of "first world perspectives".
If one's not angry at what we are seeing in our country today one's head ain't quite workin' right. Just the way I see it.
We either actually care about our children's future or we just SAY we do.
The rest of your post is good information, although I'd add a .22 lr in there.
That's one side of the welfare/EE story. The other side is one of lazy families who beget lazy families. These people put a HUGE generational burden on society without ever planning to change. As one put it lately, "welfare is now a career choice". These are not people who are there because of circumstance, but because of a choice that they are not going to work and the gov't supports this lifestyle. Maybe you are happy with your tax dollars supporting this as well. Work hard = pay more taxes. Trudeau blabbed about taxing the rich and got votes from the lazy on the backs of those who actually do work for a living.
That's one side of the welfare/EE story. The other side is one of lazy families who beget lazy families. These people put a HUGE generational burden on society without ever planning to change. As one put it lately, "welfare is now a career choice". These are not people who are there because of circumstance, but because of a choice that they are not going to work and the gov't supports this lifestyle. Maybe you are happy with your tax dollars supporting this as well. Work hard = pay more taxes. Trudeau blabbed about taxing the rich and got votes from the lazy on the backs of those who actually do work for a living.
I gave up on this thread a while ago....... It's not only a "career choice" .... It's now a culture....... Put anything up on kijiji you want to get rid of or get a hold of a guy with an ad that wants to scrap metal and you will see what I mean...... All supplemental income free of tax for bums......... I stopped doing it because I was worried that people coming to my house might get a sense that I own some nice things and a b&e would ensue...... Even put a kickass alarm system on the house......
To those in places like BC, who claim it isn't enough to live on, ask yourself a question, how are they able to live on it then?..... By your logic, they would all be dead from starvation........ Seek out your welfare recipients and you will find your drug dealers, people with fake addresses, people with multiple kids collecting support that is non declarabke or taxable, or people with under the table work collecting a "subsidy" on the taxpayer's dime...... It's not rocket surgery.....
Rocket surgery?
Combination of brain surgery and rocket science...... Look it up captain bunny slippers......
No..... I don't...... As long as the person doing it is a contributing member of society....... So me that makes a business out of it deserves to get nailed..... I believe the limit is $5k........ I may be wrong.......
I don't care how much a guy sells stuff online (as long as it's not stolen). Screw the government, they should keep their noses out of it. Crooks don't even begin to describe government.
I know what you are trying to say with "contributing member of society" and don't necessarily disagree with you on it. However these days "contributing member of society" to me also entails having a lot of knowledge of what is really going on and giving a damn. Gotta say it's a small club on that front.
nowarningshot
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This whole...worthy of help...not worthy thing is pretty pointless in our current system.
It is also completely off the OP's topic. There must be a angry white men that pay too much tax self help group meeting at some church basement on a Tuesday night. If it helps, substitute "welfare" with broke because i pay to much tax, supprting welfare people, and i need a inexpensive rifle so my kids dont starve...nah thats to long......
It is also completely off the OP's topic. There must be a angry white men that pay too much tax self help group meeting at some church basement on a Tuesday night. If it helps, substitute "welfare" with broke because i pay to much tax, supprting welfare people, and i need a inexpensive rifle so my kids dont starve...nah thats to long......
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