Betrayed by my hunting partner

Varmit

Varmit

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ok, I've known this guy for 3 years. I met him when he was hunting near a camp I own and seemed like a great guy. I got a moose tag the next year and he went with us and everything went great. This past October we both drove to Sask in my truck for the muzzleloader hunt and stayed 3 weeks at a camp his uncle owns and had a good trip.

So, in November I was talking to him and told him about a buck I was hunting in a new spot close to my cottage and invited him up for a couple of days. I was exited about the buck sign I was seeing and telling him how hard it was to get into the spot because of a big gorge I had to get down and back up to get into the area. He asked me to show him where it was on google earth. He was hunting an area about 2 miles away where he saw a good buck the first day and was using a enclosed blind I built there.

The very next morning he made a beeline for the spot I was hunting and when he made it up out of the gorge he jumped the buck and made a fluke running shot and hit the buck in the back of the head. It was a big 8 pt scored 145 B&C and was 5 or 6 years old, weighed about 220 after the rut. (last week) The worst part was he then he lied to me about how he ended up in there. This is a very experienced woodsman who has an uncanny sense of direction based on my hunting with him in Sask. We had to bone the buck out and pack the meat out of the gorge.

I couldn't believe he would do that and now think I should end the relationship. Any of the other guys I hunt always respect the others hunting spots and wouldn't ever do this especially as a guest and the others house.

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You hunt with him, you share the spot with him, you guys both drag the deer out together so that sounds as if you were hunting together that day and you are upset he went into that spot to hunt the gorge? If I were your hunting partner and had been given all that info unless said otherwise I would assume we were after that buck together as a team. Sounds to me like someone's underwear are in a knot because his hunting partner got the shot and made the kill!
 
the spank said:
You hunt with him, you share the spot with him, you guys both drag the deer out together so that sounds as if you were hunting together that day and you are upset he went into that spot to hunt the gorge? If I were your hunting partner and had been given all that info unless said otherwise I would assume we were after that buck together as a team. Sounds to me like someone's underwear are in a knot because his hunting partner got the shot and made the kill!
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No, we were not hunting the same buck, he was in a different area in the opposite direction from the where I was heading. we were using ATVs and were driving about 1/2 hr to reach our spots. It was his first time in there and before I said anything he lied about why he ended up there.
 
the spank said:
You hunt with him, you share the spot with him, you guys both drag the deer out together so that sounds as if you were hunting together that day and you are upset he went into that spot to hunt the gorge? If I were your hunting partner and had been given all that info unless said otherwise I would assume we were after that buck together as a team. Sounds to me like someone's underwear are in a knot because his hunting partner got the shot and made the kill!
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Have to agree with you spank. Knowing how few good bucks there are in my area of NS you don't let an opportunity pass you by if you do someone you don't know will take it then how would you feel.
I have taken guys on our property and had them take bucks I was after for years but it didnot upset me. I don't own the deer just the land. A hour apart. In the rut that old buck would be easliy passing through both locations.
Is a deer worth giving up a good experienced hunting bud not in my mind.
 
Varmit said:
ok, I've known this guy for 3 years. I met him when he was hunting near a camp I own and seemed like a great guy. I got a moose tag the next year and he went with us and everything went great. This past October we both drove to Sask in my truck for the muzzleloader hunt and stayed 3 weeks at a camp his uncle owns and had a good trip.

So, in November I was talking to him and told him about a buck I was hunting in a new spot close to my cottage and invited him up for a couple of days. I was exited about the buck sign I was seeing and telling him how hard it was to get into the spot because of a big gorge I had to get down and back up to get into the area. He asked me to show him where it was on google earth. He was hunting an area about 2 miles away where he saw a good buck the first day and was using a enclosed blind I built there.

The very next morning he made a beeline for the spot I was hunting and when he made it up out of the gorge he jumped the buck and made a fluke running shot and hit the buck in the back of the head. It was a big 8 pt scored 145 B&C and was 5 or 6 years old, weighed about 220 after the rut. (last week) The worst part was he then he lied to me about how he ended up in there. This is a very experienced woodsman who has an uncanny sense of direction based on my hunting with him in Sask. We had to bone the buck out and pack the meat out of the gorge.

I couldn't believe he would do that and now think I should end the relationship. Any of the other guys I hunt always respect the others hunting spots and wouldn't ever do this especially as a guest and the others house.

Comment/advise?
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I don't think you have anything to complain about. Your partner got the shot, you didn't, stop whining. Is it worth damaging what appears to be a good friendship over who got the shot?
 
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The buck was the Queens buck, it is a too bad so sad scenario unfortunately but it is what it is, you'll still get to pay your taxes again next year, not the end of the world.

Had a buddy say to me, "Yeah , I bet you'd be mad if I went and shot that nice buck you were watching at your spot!!!hehehe" , I said why would I be mad ? Go shoot him them, he isn't my buck.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
The buck was the Queens buck, it is a too bad so sad scenario unfortunately but it is what it is, you'll still get to pay your taxes again next year, not the end of the world.

Had a buddy say to me, "Yeah , I bet you'd be mad if I went and shot that nice buck you were watching at your spot!!!hehehe" , I said why would I be mad ? Go shoot him them, he isn't my buck.
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someone is stuck in 1981 the queen is gone no more

no one owns the deer it was born free just like you not bought

who cares about big bucks any way you cant eat antlers (so many new hunters are out for trophys sure they are nice but it should not be the only reason to hunt)
 
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Had a similar situation with a friend who asked to shoot a doe on my property. I said he could but that he needed to leave the bucks alone as they had been hit pretty hard that season (I myself had decided not to shoot a buck on my property). He hunted it while I was away and my wife calls me to tell me that he got a doe and a small 4x4. He "couldn't help himself". I said nothing but found all kinds of reasons why he couldn't hunt here the next year. I then realized that all of our private land hunting spots were places that I had gained permission for and I was essentially acting as his outfitter -- a situation that got worse since he was now asking me to take his other friends and family to places that I had worked getting permission on. He had no place of his own and constantly complained about how hard it is to hunt crown land but refused to knock on doors even with people who are known for always giving permission. Aside from a couple of hunts with him this year, I spent most of my time hunting with my son. Sometimes good friends aren't necessarily the best hunting partners.
 
Your mistake was showing him where the buck was.
Trust and honour are lacking on his part.
Tell him how you feel about him slipping into your honey hole and shooting the buck you were persuing.

Does nobody read what the OP wrote? Go back and read it again.
 
tigrr said:
Does nobody read what the OP wrote? Go back and read it again.
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I did...

Varmit, you own this land in question? If crown, there is no issue then....Sounds like the area is pretty large, and there is plenty of room to accomadate the two of you....Maybe he thought the same...

Varmit said:
This past October we both drove to Sask in my truck for the muzzleloader hunt and stayed 3 weeks at a camp his uncle owns and had a good trip.
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This right here makes up for any misgivings IMO.. Like how you mentioned ''in my truck'' (catty?)as if it makes a difference...Sounds like a good trade off to me...

Varmit said:
He was hunting an area about 2 miles away where he saw a good buck the first day and was using a enclosed blind I built there.
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Also catty!!

Varmit said:
The very next morning he made a beeline for the spot I was hunting and when he made it up out of the gorge he jumped the buck and made a fluke running shot and hit the buck in the back of the head.
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Fluke, or maybe not, this comes off as bitter......Don't get you panties in a bunch...Is it really worth getting that worked up over a deer?
 
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I would not get worked up about it, there will always be another buck. I chased the same buck for 4 years only to have him get shot by a Yankee on a guided hunt, he was in a tree stand 100 yards from mine, didn't get mad just admired the deer and helped him and the guide drag it out. He did give me the meat so that made me happy. It scored in the high 180 B.C.
 
If you did not state you were after the deer only, I would assume it's up for grabs. Still on the other hand your hunting partner should have mentioned to you he was going after that buck as well. It's nice to know if some one else is in the area. I think it's just a lack of communication.
 
tigrr said:
Your mistake was showing him where the buck was.
Trust and honour are lacking on his part.
Tell him how you feel about him slipping into your honey hole and shooting the buck you were persuing.

Does nobody read what the OP wrote? Go back and read it again.
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I glad a couple of guys understand the situation.

I don't own it but have permission to hunt it.

Where I hunt deer most of our hunting is done from stands and when you go to another camp someone assigns you a stand to hunt out of. Your first time at a camp you don't get the choice spot but as you hunt there more and help out with pre season stuff like building stands clearing trails cutting firewood you get earn your dues and get more choice on where you want to hunt. To just leave your spot on the second day there and deliberately go to another area where you know the person that invited you is hunting is not good hunting etiquette the way I see it. If he had shot the buck where he was assigned to hunt I would have been happy for him as I was trying to get him a buck as he didn't get one on our Sask trip.
 
Varmit said:
I glad a couple of guys understand the situation.

I don't own it but have permission to hunt it.

Where I hunt deer most of our hunting is done from stands and when you go to another camp someone assigns you a stand to hunt out of. Your first time at a camp you don't get the choice spot but as you hunt there more and help out with pre season stuff like building stands clearing trails cutting firewood you get earn your dues and get more choice on where you want to hunt. To just leave your spot on the second day there and deliberately go to another area where you know the person that invited you is hunting is not good hunting etiquette the way I see it. If he had shot the buck where he was assigned to hunt I would have been happy for him as I was trying to get him a buck as he didn't get one on our Sask trip.
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Don't end a friendship but Don't trust him again and always remember he hunts his places and you hunt ours....
 
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