Better trigger for Glock 17

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I have shot my new Glock 17 today. I like to have a better trigger pull. Is the Ultimate Trigger Stop from Questar any good ? Or there are some more ways to do better ? Thanks.
 
Cwlam3,
I take it you've had your Glock for a short period of time? I recommend lots of dry fire practice and plenty of live fire practice as well. Keep in mind that the more you shoot your Glock the smoother (and lighter) your Glock trigger will get. New they are a bit stiff and leave a little to be desired. When you practice dry fire drills get in the habit of dry firing, hold the trigger all the way back, cycle the slide, then slowly release pressure on the trigger just until you feel the trigger reset itself for the next shot. You can do this with live ammo(obviously with live ammo you would be at the range and would not need to cycle your slide) or without ammo. Only release the trigger enough to reset the trigger, otherwise you'll end up slapping the trigger on subsequent shots. With a little practice you'll be able to feel the reset and know when to stop letting off the trigger to achieve the shortest possible reset without slapping the trigger. Same rule applies for the first trigger pull. Pull slowly and feel for that resistance piont where all free play has been removed and the trigger bar is now in contact with the disconnector. The trigger travels 0.5 inches total. 0.3 inches of that is free play or slack. By practicing your "take up" and removing all that slack you create a trigger pull in weight and length of pull similar to single action autos like 1911's. If you fail to remove this slack, then the Glock truly shoots like a typical double action. That is to say it shoots like ass and takes a long time to master. Should this not yeild the results you want than look into changing your trigger weight. You can get 3.5 lb triggers as opposed to the 5.5 that come stock. I haven't had much use for an over travel stop as I never noticed much over travel to begin with. Some folks swear by them.

CF
 
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I agree with Gushulak also, the key is to take your finger off the trigger just enough for the Glock's trigger to reset but not too far so as to have to compress through the whole trigger motion. Practice is the key. Having fired thousands of shots through my Glock 17, I swear there are times I could actually hear the click of the trigger resetting.
 
If you want a real nice trigger : 5 pound connector is ok, install wolff four pound striker spring, install overtravel stop, install pretravel stop and reslot the trigger safety, clip 2 coils from the striker safety spring and do the .25 cent polish job. You'll be pleasantly surprised.The 3.5 pound connector makes it even lighter. I can get mine down to about 3 pounds with very little pretravel and no overtravel but I prefer a five pound trigger pull.All safeties will work and you will be legal for production.
 
Hal,
How is that legal for production? You've now altered the gun to less than factory parts/condition? Also, reducing the spring weight on your firing pin is flirting with failure as is cutting the coils on your firing pin safety spring. I personally would not recommend it. Stick with stock parts and spend your money on ammo and practice. After all, that is why we shoot so we can get more trigger time.

CF
 
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Hal,
How is that legal for production? You've now altered the gun to less than factory parts/condition? Also, reducing the spring weight on your firing pin is flirting with failure as is cutting the coils on your firing pin safety spring. I personally would not recommend it. Stick with stock parts and spend your money on ammo and practice. After all, that is why we shoot so we can get more trigger time.

CF
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Trigger pull is 5 pounds, all parts are glock except wolff 4 pound striker spring and all the safeties work. That's legal and I do practice, I was out 3 times last week and popped of about 900 rounds.
 
How about if I only drop in a 3.5 lb connector or the Ultimate Trigger Stop. Would that be better ? I shoot SA with all my other guns and I like a shorter and lighter trigger. I only do target shooting anyway. Thanks.
 
hal1955 said:
Trigger pull is 5 pounds, all parts are glock except wolff 4 pound striker spring and all the safeties work. That's legal and I do practice, I was out 3 times last week and popped of about 900 rounds.
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Welcome to Standard division, pal.
 
Lots of good advice on this tread I have left my GLOCK entirely stock, the only thing I would change is the recoil spring (a little stronger). Once you get used to the stock trigger you will not notice a pound or a pound and a half difference. You must bond with the gun.... MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM GLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
cwlam3 said:
How about if I only drop in a 3.5 lb connector or the Ultimate Trigger Stop. Would that be better ? I shoot SA with all my other guns and I like a shorter and lighter trigger. I only do target shooting anyway. Thanks.
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The ultimate trigger stop reduces overtravel but not pretravel. It helps though.You might still be at five pounds even with the 3.5 connector. If you don't want to try a wolff 4 pound striker spring you can clip a few coils off the stock one.
 
Hal1955,
sorry to burst your bubble but modifying your pistol with anything other than factory or quality aftermarket parts is a bad idea. Simply "clipping" coils off of springs is bad juju. I don't want to start a #### fight but if clipping a few coils is enough to make a marked difference in your shooting then there's more problems than just the equipment. Again, how does this meet stock division requirements, you stated yourself that everything was stock EXCEPT the wolff striker spring. To me that means you've modified your gun out of stock set up no???

CF
 
cannonfodder said:
Hal1955,
sorry to burst your bubble but modifying your pistol with anything other than factory or quality aftermarket parts is a bad idea. Simply "clipping" coils off of springs is bad juju. I don't want to start a #### fight but if clipping a few coils is enough to make a marked difference in your shooting then there's more problems than just the equipment. Again, how does this meet stock division requirements, you stated yourself that everything was stock EXCEPT the wolff striker spring. To me that means you've modified your gun out of stock set up no???

CF
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If you don't want to use a wolff spring just clip 2 or 3 coils off the stock striker spring and you are all glock.Trigger jobs are allowed as long as the trigger pull is 5 pounds or more. Hope this helps.
 
cannonfodder said:
Didn't know that(I don't shoot IPSC). I am still leary about "altering" factory parts by cutting,grinding, filing or any other method.

CF
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I understand your concern. If youdon't know how your glock works, don't mess with it and get a gunsmith to do it. There is a lot of " freeplay " in a glock for reliability and safety reasons. If you know what you are doing you can tune them nicely and still be safe. I recommend " The Complete Glock Refence Guide" at www.ptooma.com . Glock on !
 
I'm unsure as to the direction of your last post but I DO know how my Glock works. Altering componenets beyond the specs of factory is probably not a safe idea. I'm sure Gaston Glock knows a hell of a lot more about his design than we do. I'll take his word for it.

CF
 
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