Beware of "Gifts"!

Boomer

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How many of us get a little careless when it comers to seating primers, particularly when we are loading a large volume caliber, say like pistol ammo? I am fairly annal when it comes to the quality of my handloads, and pistol ammo is no exception.

Not long ago I received a "gift" of some .44 magnum ammo, a mix of loaded ammo and some empty cases. The ammo was received from a friend who did not want to use them in his Redhawk because the handloader who is known to us, was known for, shall we say, loading to within fairly wide tolerances.

Well let me tell you about this stuff. The cases were sticky with bullet lube, and apparently had never seen the inside of a tumbler. There were at least 3 separate loads, some jacketed some cast, with different OAL's within bullet type, and varying degrees of crimp from round to round.

But what was really disturbing was the primer seating. Only 3 of the 21 loaded rounds had the primers seated properly. The remaining 18 rounds had the primers seated above the case heads, and one was so grossly seated that the exposed primer cup had been smeared across the case head!!

I should just ####can the whole works, but I wouldn't want someone else finding the stuff and attempt to shoot it. So I'll take it apart, burn the powder, drop the primers in a pan of oil, and junk the bullets. If any of the cases are worth saving I will, but I expect the primer pockets are all loose, some show signs of leaking from a previous firing.

Folks - if you get ammo from an unknown source, proceed with caution! My pal knew I wouldn't shoot this stuff, and he didn't want to be bothered with it, so passed it on to me - good guy that he is!
 
Good advice. Unless I know and trust the person who gave me the reloads, I always pull the 'gifts' apart and use the brass if it looks any good. It's not worth the risk.
 
If it doesn't come from the factory or I didn't load it I don't trust it. That extends to "gifted" components too. My brother-in-law dropped by a few months ago with a large box of half-used cans of assorted powders and other bits and pieces that came from an acquaintance of his. The powder probably was what it said it was but without being absolutely sure, knowing who it came from or how it was stored I told my b-in-l to spread the powder on his garden. Makes great fertilizer. His garden never looked better.
 
Claybuster said:
If it doesn't come from the factory or I didn't load it I don't trust it. That extends to "gifted" components too. My brother-in-law dropped by a few months ago with a large box of half-used cans of assorted powders and other bits and pieces that came from an acquaintance of his. The powder probably was what it said it was but without being absolutely sure, knowing who it came from or how it was stored I told my b-in-l to spread the powder on his garden. Makes great fertilizer. His garden never looked better.

Excelelnt advise, especially those gifts of powder which arrive in coffee tins!
 
Break it down, Deprime the cases , and then clean and reload....

The powder can be tossed in the fire ( OUTSIDE) and the primers just go in the trash with your other spent primers..

You might be able to reuse the bullets and the cases are probably reusable.. A 44 is a straight walled case why do they have any lube?
 
bear.23 said:
Break it down, Deprime the cases , and then clean and reload....

The powder can be tossed in the fire ( OUTSIDE) and the primers just go in the trash with your other spent primers..

You might be able to reuse the bullets and the cases are probably reusable.. A 44 is a straight walled case why do they have any lube?

It was bullet lube, not case lube that was making everything sticky. The cases are iffy because they had been reloaded hot so many times. As I said there was evidence of leaking around some primer pockets, but the ones that are salvageable will be kept. I don't need a small number of bullets which don't match what I normally use. As far as spreading the powder on the lawn goes - didn't check my avatar to see where I live did you?
 
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Boomer said:
It was bullet lube, not case lube that was making everything sticky. The cases are iffy because they had been reloaded hot so many times. As I said there was evidence of leaking around some primer pockets, but the ones that are salvageable will be kept. I don't need a small number of bullets which don't match what I normally use. As far as spreading the powder on the lawn goes - didn't check my avatar to see where I live did you?



With global warming just wait a few years and you'll need a mower too.
 
none said:
What kind of crazy person would want their lawn to grow faster unless your the kid next door getting paid to cut it.:runaway: I'd rather spray paint the gravel green.:)
Kid next door cutting the lawn?; keep an eye on your wife!:D
 
magicchip said:
I never shoot someone else's reloads. I like my face as it is.
I know several people who reload at IPSC volumes and keep highly documented records of every batch he has done. I would trust thier reloads as I know them personally. The odds of them screwing up on their Dillons at most equal to me screwing up my loads. We aren't talking someone who is doing 100-200 reloads for you to use, we are talking thousands.
That said. If I didn't know the source and their habits concerning loading I wouldn't trust them either...
 
Freind of mine pissed his wife off some years ago.Her way of blowing off steam was to reload (for him) on a progressive press.I have those loads now and of two hundred .45acp rounds loaded in less than an hour about 40% are unusable.Most of these have crushed primers in sideways some have bulged cases or cocked projectiles.Lesson here,don't annoy your wife nd always check reloads when coming from an outside source.
 
shotgunjoe said:
Freind of mine pissed his wife off some years ago.Her way of blowing off steam was to reload (for him) on a progressive press.I have those loads now and of two hundred .45acp rounds loaded in less than an hour about 40% are unusable.Most of these have crushed primers in sideways some have bulged cases or cocked projectiles.Lesson here,don't annoy your wife nd always check reloads when coming from an outside source.

Shooting ammo loaded for a guy whose wife was pissed at him would be totally crazy, she might have been after the life insurance. There are very few people that I would shoot their reloads, actually 2 that I can think of.
 
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