Big Dilemma ** Trolling Thread **

c-fbmi said:
SC..............if you decide to go 270..............Kiss the bottom metal goodbye............I will not be a party to the building of another 270............PERIOD !!!!!!! If however you decide to go 280, well you can count on me, but you best not lie to me................
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Come on Douglas. One new wildcat, in 270 Trump as a tribute to the new Pres.
 
Paul. I had a couple of 270's in the safe. A while ago I had a chance to add a beauty A Bolt II 280 but, because I had those 270's I passed on it. I often lament that pass.
 
SuperCub said:
I do handload and have lots of brass and bullets for both.

350pcs new R-P 280 brass, but no 280 dies.

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There is your answer.
 
280 AI is a good cartridge - it's almost a nice as the standard 280.

To answer the question in the op, use whichever one you want, and save the other for down the road. It's not like they go bad sitting on a shelf - Or find another action.
 
kamlooky said:
Tew aye-tee aye eye........................... kawmprenday-vewse?
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Johnn Peterson said:
I 'think' 280.........., :confused:then I'm lost after that Looky. 280 AI ???
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notsorichguy said:
Comprendre vous
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Johnn Peterson said:
If I try hard, sometimes Oui, but, sometimes, Niet. Still have my heart set and hopeful in convincing Douglas for a 270 Trump, 270-338 mix :) .
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JP I was commenting on the portion of 'lookies post you stated you didn't understand! Translation is "280 AI, Comprendre vous"

That said, I think the 270-338WM would be "silly"! But.... swap that case out for LM and I think you'd have a winner!

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Cheers!
 
From WIKI with edit.

.280 Remington

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ballistic performance

Bullet mass/type Velocity Energy

120 gr (8 g) SP 3,112 ft/s (949 m/s) 2,581 ft·lbf (3,499 J)
140 gr (9 g) HP 2,839 ft/s (865 m/s) 2,506 ft·lbf (3,398 J)
154 gr (10 g) SP 2,825 ft/s (861 m/s) 2,730 ft·lbf (3,700 J)
168 gr (11 g) HPBT 2,723 ft/s (830 m/s) 2,767 ft·lbf (3,752 J)
175 gr (11 g) SP 2,681 ft/s (817 m/s) 2,794 ft·lbf (3,788 J)
Test barrel length: 24"


The .280 Remington, also known as the 7mm Express Remington, was introduced in 1957 for the Remington model 740, 760, 721, and 725 rifles. The .280 is based on the .30-03 necked down to accept 7 mm (.284in) bullets, with the neck moved forward .050in (1.27mm). Original loadings were 125, 150 and 165 grain bullet weights.

History

Having been released 32 years after the .270 Winchester, it had somewhat unspectacular sales; Remington renamed the cartridge in 1979, calling it the 7 mm Express in an attempt to increase sales. This resulted in people confusing it with the 7 mm Remington Magnum and Remington two years later changed the name back to .280 in 1981.

.280 Remington vs .270 Winchester

The .280 Remington is capable of generating slightly higher velocities with a given bullet weight than the .270 Winchester, and also able to use heavier bullets due to the larger .284" diameter. .284" bullets also have higher ballistic coefficients at the top of the weight spectrum than .277" bullets. The greater energy and higher ballistic coefficient of heavier .284" bullets give the .280 Remington a slight ballistic advantage over the .270 Winchester.
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SuperCub said:
From WIKI with edit.

.280 Remington vs .270 Winchester

The .280 Remington is capable of generating slightly higher velocities with a given bullet weight than the .270 Winchester, and also able to use heavier bullets due to the larger .284" diameter. .284" bullets also have higher ballistic coefficients at the top of the weight spectrum than .277" bullets. The greater energy and higher ballistic coefficient of heavier .284" bullets give the .280 Remington a slight ballistic advantage over the .270 Winchester.
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And you will be using that "ballistic advantage" on whitetail deer???
 
NL-Hunter said:
I think you have your mind made up.
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You're right .... I had made my mind up to go with the 280, which is the reason I went with the second barrel offer after buying the 270. This thread was started a a joke with a bit of fun as the intended end result.

hoytcanon said:
And you will be using that "ballistic advantage" on whitetail deer???
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This is a very good point as neither of the choices offer any advantage over the other for deer hunting. NONE! NADA!

The 280 has a very high approval rate in this thread over the 270. Why such disdain for the 270 esp when most of us here would only be using the 280 for deer hunting and would have a heavier gun for larger game. If we were all one gun hunters, the 280 would be the clear better choice given the heavier bullets choices but for most of us this is not the case. Furthermore, a one gun hunter would be even better served with a 30-06.
 
c-fbmi said:
SC..............if you decide to go 270..............Kiss the bottom metal goodbye............I will not be a party to the building of another 270............PERIOD !!!!!!! If however you decide to go 280, well you can count on me, but you best not lie to me................
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WOW! ....... Now tell me how you really feel! :)

The 280 is a go on this project and was so from the start. Scout's honour. :cool:
 
SuperCub said:
This is a very good point as neither of the choices offer any advantage over the other for deer hunting. NONE! NADA!

The 280 has a very high approval rate in this thread over the 270. Why such disdain for the 270 esp when most of us here would only be using the 280 for deer hunting and would have a heavier gun for larger game. If we were all one gun hunters, the 280 would be the clear better choice given the heavier bullets choices but for most of us this is not the case. Furthermore, a one gun hunter would be even better served with a 30-06.
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I was just recently in a similar dilemma... I was looking to fill a hole in my Stainless M77 MKII line-up between .22/250 and 7mm Rem Mag. I was hoping for a .260 Rem, but when a .270 MKII stainless became available, I jumped on it. Subsequent to purchasing the .270, a grossly overpriced M77 MKII Stainless .280 was located in New condition.... I really like 7mm bore cartridges, but would have had to source brass and dies also... I went back to my reloading notes on .270 and .280 and concluded I would just be throwing away several hundred dollars to make that switch... the .270 stayed.

Having said this, given your circumstances, with brass in hand and both barrels, there is no doubt that I would have made the same decision as you did.
 
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