Big Game hunting in Grizzly country

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The one time Covid actually looks extremely lethal is compared to Grizzly bears. It took 13 years straight of trying to get eaten for Treadwell to pull it off.

Its kinda hard to imagine trying harder than that....and I agree.

Of course there are newspaper articles about bear fatalities. No one claimed they didn't happen. Congrats?

Whats interesting is the rate.
 
Well if you don't know anyone, I guess no one did :) That's exactly how statistics work!

But I'd like to figure out the percentage of people who spend time in bear country who are mauled vs people who have died of covid and I bet its close lol. After all, hundreds of thousands of people have come out just fine, despite the handful that didn't.

If this is to be believed, 21 fatalities in Canada between 1970 and 2018. Not a bad nearly 50 year stretch eh?

https://grizzlybearfoundation.com/b... there have been,while field dressing a moose.

Seems to roughly concur with the list of fatal bear attacks here on Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

Pretty good collection of stats and sources here, showing that out of the quite low numbers of bear incidents, 70% of em are black bears.

https://ocanada.fyi/how-rare-are-be...here are only,followed by Alberta and Ontario.

Maybe Grizzlies are more likely to severely injure or kill, sure. But the odds that it happens are miniscule. I'd love seeing the stats on people who spend time outdoors around bears vs covid lol.

You ever seen a Grizzly outside a Zoo?

The only reason this guy was still out was to scavenge late season gut piles.
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You ever seen a Grizzly outside a Zoo?

The only reason this guy was still out was to scavenge late season gut piles.
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Do the rates of attack change when someone has seen one in the wild? Deaths become much less of a rarity if I have?

That'd be really weird.

Heard Ardent's seen one or two.
 
Do the rates of attack change when someone has seen one in the wild? Deaths become much less of a rarity if I have?

That'd be really weird.

Heard Ardent's seen one or two.

There's really not that many guys on the Mountain.

Ardents dealing with a completely different animal; he'll deny it but the Natives, Biologists and Hunters have all long held this postition. And of course he thought it enough of a threat to get an ATC. The fat happy Coastal Bears are much more tolerant than the Mountain Bears, one only need to look at the attitudes of the Natives on the Coast vs Inland.
 
So how many "guys on the mountain" are there per attack? per death?

Either way "the odds of attack change locally" is a whole other topic than "the odds of attack are extremely low overall"
 
There's really not that many guys on the Mountain.

Ardents dealing with a completely different animal; he'll deny it but the Natives, Biologists and Hunters have all long held this postition. And of course he thought it enough of a threat to get an ATC. The fat happy Coastal Bears are much more tolerant than the Mountain Bears, one only need to look at the attitudes of the Natives on the Coast vs Inland.

I spent equal time with the inland grizzlies, we lived in Fort Nelson and hunted the MK including for grizz, and lived in and hunted Grande Cache / Wilmore, well before I outfitted the coast. Bears will be bears. I pay a sow on the coast with cubs just as much or more heed as any grizzly.

The stats bear out people aren’t dying in droves soon as you cross the coast range.
 
The stats bear out people aren’t dying in droves soon as you cross the coast range.

You mean statistics don't change based on if anyones ever seen a bear in the wild, or trying to invalidate your experiences? lol

Who woulda thunk it.
 
I know MiG’s seen plenty, we just have radically differing takeaways of the threat level they pose overall to ventures.

I'm sure he has too.

But the number of people who encounter grizzlies vs the ones who die are rather ironclad. Maybe some are more prone to attack in certain localities under certain conditions. They're all certianly capable IF they wanted to, and prove it every once in a while. But the overall risk, going off of the numbers, does not change because of personal experience, belief or feeling.

All I'm sayin.
 
I hear you. It can happen, but the vast majority of BC emergencies in Grizzly country have nothing to do with Grizzlies. Search and rescue confirms that.

I don’t discount the encounters people have had, or that the possibility exists, or that it feels good to carry a gun. I do heavily disagree with the mindset attack is imminent and be ready to shoot from a hundred yards, and carry a monster of a rifle for an everyday hunt.

This place would be dull without grizzlies, as would BC. So I’m grateful to them for all they bring to CGN and Canada.
 
Weird eh, the majority of fatal Grizzly attacks (orangey brown) are along the spine of the Rockies. I'll make the assumption that non-fatal attacks are also concentrated there. And few along the Coast, almost like the fat, happy Coastal Bears aren't as aggressive as those in the Mountains.

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Weird eh, the majority of fatal Grizzly attacks (orangey brown) are along the spine of the Rockies. I'll make the assumption that non-fatal attacks are also concentrated there. And few along the Coast, almost like the fat, happy Coastal Bears aren't as aggressive as those in the Mountains.

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I live and hunt where there are stacked brown markers. As I’ve said earlier. The next door neighbour shot a grizzly in self defence this spring.
 
Sounds like some great experiences, BB!

The best grizzly encounter I had was in the 2021 season, we were cutting heli pads and I was 150-200y down the ridge line on pad #3. I stopped after I was done cutting the pad to have lunch and some movement in my first pad caught my eye, in my first pads slash pile was a big grizzly rolling around in the spruce limbs. It was literally rubbing and humping itself all over the cut up trees and limbs, I have no doubt it knew the two of us were there, I could hear my falling partner cutting another pad a couple hundred yards down the ridge.

It didn’t care at all about us, our heli pilot offered to fly over and run it off but I didn’t bother with it. I just kept an eye on it as I bumped down to where my partner was cutting our last pad of the day and got picked up by the heli once we were done.
 
Weird eh, the majority of fatal Grizzly attacks (orangey brown) are along the spine of the Rockies. I'll make the assumption that non-fatal attacks are also concentrated there. And few along the Coast, almost like the fat, happy Coastal Bears aren't as aggressive as those in the Mountains.

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Yup, in the very south-western portion of Alberta (Pincher Creek and Crowsnest Pass) I encountered most of my grizzlies, one other west of Calgary. All of my years hunting in the Rocky Mountains, I never crossed paths with a cougar/mountain lion.
 
Sept 2014 hunter fatally mauled by Sow Grizzly in the Highwood Pass area of Kananaskis AB. Sow likely charged fast the hunter got off a shot but to no effect. No scarcity of Grizzlies in the Kananaskis seen plenty.⚠️ https://i.imgur.com/iPyQhYP.jpg

https://blog.batchgeo.com/bear-attack-statistics/
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Highwood Pass scenery: https://i.imgur.com/zCoFCOE.jpg
 
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It sure would be nice to have our grizzly hunt back in bc. There are more bears than ever before. Be careful out there everyone.
 
i can count 3 attacks way further north in the yukon for a total of 4 victims ... one in ross river or around one in kluane lake area and one in the north of mayo.
 
It sure would be nice to have our grizzly hunt back in bc. There are more bears than ever before. Be careful out there everyone.

agree . and in heavy pop's area's here in Alberta too
The brave one's need a cleansing
Just memory ...
but wasn't there 2 people killed either this spring or last year within 2 weeks of each other by separate bears .
Only a few miles apart , like 30 klms
Just north and a bit west of Clgy
One a teacher , maybe, and one a landowner out walking her property
 
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It sure would be nice to have our grizzly hunt back in bc. There are more bears than ever before. Be careful out there everyone.

I don't see it happening, the Urban Mindless and the Left Wing Politicians would rather see kids killed by bears than a Hunt.
 
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