Big Game with 300win mag vs 300 wsm? 338 win mag?

Melnibonean said:
The Scandinavian countries are fond of the 6.5x55 for Moose, IIRC. Seems a projectile that's smaller than .30cal works over there. Is it because their Moose are smaller than ours, or because of the shot placement requirement for hunters that was mentioned above?
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Over in Sweden we just used to wound them with 6.5x55 so they couldn't get away and then we'd roll in a 300 ultra mag mounted on wheels like a canon to put them down. It was the only way.
 
Throttle_monkey1 said:
Over in Sweden we just used to wound them with 6.5x55 so they couldn't get away and then we'd roll in a 300 ultra mag mounted on wheels like a canon to put them down. It was the only way.
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It would take four Swede's or one Norwegian to hang onto that 'pop gun' ...... :cool:

Thought this thread was about buffalo ... ? .300 Winchester will do the job for you ....
 
LouF said:
I just looked up the regulations for calibers in Sweden for Hunting moose .The 6.5x55 is the minimum caliber on the go list (military surplus).But there are alot better choices on the list for sure.Sorry woodchopper but I can't let it go:nest:
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Didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
 
c-fbmi said:
Duly noted for the future Sheep..........in all seriousness to the OP, I have used all three of the cartridges in question and have found the 300 WM to be the best all around by a significant margin. The 338 will do absolutely nothing that a 300 WM won't do with 200-225 gn bullets and the 300 WSM shines only in an ultra light SA rifle using light to medium bullets. The 300 WSM falls out of the race as soon as 180 gn + bullets are introduced. I load my 300 WSM with 150 gn TTSX and it is perfect for the intended use of the rifle, which is a specific niche of sheep and goat hunting and it's in a 5 lb 15 oz (all up, scope, sling and ammo on board) titanium actioned rifle.
The 300 WM can be used for all NA big game and only falls a touch light for the monster bears, but still very useable with back up. I guess the same could be said for the 338 WM but the 300 will outshine and out shoot it in the mountains and when ranges can get out there like sheep, goats and antelope. Just my humble opinion from the experiences I have had.
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Thanks again all. I really did choose the 338 because I will be tramping through bear country a lot this year. I figure the range will be fairly short for the bison so the 338 will be fun. I was planning an taking the 308 on the sheep hunt though... a 180 grain should get me out there if need be? No?
The 3 00 wm would be ideal for sheep but can't afford a decent set up this year. Guys I'm heading with are using the greatest round in North America so I figure I'm good with the 308
 
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The WSM isn't as much as a slouch with heavier bullets as many think. The 300WM has greater case capacity so it will always beat the WSM, but with most 200-220gr bullets we are mostly only looking at 75-100fps difference. The WM has a pretty short neck, too. So long bullets stick into that case, too. The WSM doesn't really start losing ground until getting into very long target bullets like 240gr and the like.
 
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Again, there appears to lots of talk about moose, when the OP wanted an opinion for a bison gun which has the versatility to do other things. If he wants a .338, and is confident in his ability to use it, the .338 is a good cartridge as is the .300 Winchester. While I don't really appreciate the value of WSM family of cartridges, honesty compels me to point out that a game animal shot with a .300 Winchester and a .300 WSM would be able to to tell them apart, nor could the hunter tell much difference in the animal's reaction to either shot.
 
Boomer said:
Again, there appears to lots of talk about moose, when the OP wanted an opinion for a bison gun which has the versatility to do other things. If he wants a .338, and is confident in his ability to use it, the .338 is a good cartridge as is the .300 Winchester. While I don't really appreciate the value of WSM family of cartridges, honesty compels me to point out that a game animal shot with a .300 Winchester and a .300 WSM would be able to to tell them apart, nor could the hunter tell much difference in the animal's reaction to either shot.
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Boomer, I of course agree with you on the terminal ballistic reaction likely being the same, what I was pointing out to the OP was that the 300 WM would make it easier to connect on certain species if the range started to stretch a bit, as it has several hundred FPS on the other two with equivalent BC bullets.
 
bearkilr said:
What is it with people and the term "magnum"? Let's remove the "magnum" and call it a 338 Winchester. I bet it kicks a lot less now, probably a pussycat compared to a 300 Winchester MAGNUM. Probably very similar to a 9.3x62. ;)
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You seem to have a problem with Winchester referring to their calibre/cartridge/firearms as 'magnums' ..... if it makes you feel better, maybe Winchester could change the 'magnum' designation to 'minimum' ....... again, words won't mean much to the buffalo in the crosshairs.

Try to be happy ........ if you can. :yingyang:
 
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