Big HK for IPSC?

Sako300

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Now, all you experienced guys don't laugh.

I have a new HK Mark 23, and my wife has an HK Elite. Both are relatively big. What holsters could we use for IPSC? We want to try it out, and aren't serious competitors. Our RPAL instructor has peaked our interest to try it. We mostly shoot stationary target now.
Thanks for pointers on holster model, and where to buy.
Cheers,:wave:
 
Be aware that due to its size, the HK Mark 23 would put you in Open Division where you be competing against $5000.00 race guns...


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That being said, go out and have fun......
 
you can use the MK23 in Production. we have no box remember? he just has to start DA for the first shot, which it will do.
 
HERES A LIST OF PRODUTION GUNS

the 2 guns your talking about say Not Approved:
Mark 23, P7 Series, USP Elite, USP Expert, USP Production

Production Division List
Below is the list of pistols currently approved for Production Division. However, IPSC does not guarantee that a model currently listed may not be removed from the list in the future. IPSC reserves the right to modify this list at any time.
Note: Please read the Rules FAQ for answers to any questions you may have.

If you wish to comment about the list, please send an email to:



Make Model
ALFA-PROJ Alfa Combat, Alfa Defender
ARCUS 98
ARMS MORAVIA G2000
ARMSCOR AP9, AP9MS, APP9, APP9MS
ASAI AG onePRO
ASTRA A75, A100
BAIKAL MP446
BERETTA 92 Series full size frame (including 92, 92D, 92DS, 92 F, 92FS, 92S, 92SB, 92SB-F, 92G-SD, 92FS Brigadier, 92FS Deluxe, 92G, 92G Elite, 92G Elite II, 92 FS Centurion, 92D Centurion,92G Centurion, 92 Stock, 92EL, 90Two)

92 Series Compact frame (including 92L Compact, 92SB Compact, 92 L Compact type M, 92SB compact type M, 92 Custom Carry)

96 Series full size frame (including 96, 96D, 96DS, 96G, 96 Brigadier, 96 D Brigadier, 96G Brigadier, 96G Elite, 96G Elite II, 96G-SD, 96 Centurion,96D Centurion, 96 Stock)

96 Series Compact frame (including 96L Compact, 96L Compact type M, 96D Compact, 96D Compact Type M)

98 Series (including 98F, 98FS, 98FS Brigadier, 98 Deluxe, 98 Stock)

Vertec series (including 92G, 92FS, 92 Elite 1A, 92 Steel, 96G, 96FS, 96 Elite 1A, 96 Steel, 98 Steel)

Cougar Series (including 8000 D/DL/FL/LP/Mini, 8040 D/F/Mini, 8045 D/F/Mini, 8357 D/F)

9000S Series (including Type D & F)

PX4 Storm (Type F, G)

Approved:
Inox versions of approved models

Not Approved:
single-action only variants or laser equipped models


BERNARDELLI 2000, 2000 Baby

BERSA Thunder 9/Thunder 40, Mini T9/T40

BROWNING BDM, BDA, PRO9, PRO40

Not Approved:
Hi-Power
BUL Cherokee (full size, compact & mini), Impact, Storm

COLT 2000, Double Eagle

(Any DAO or DA/SA revolver with a barrel length of up to 5" is approved)

CZ - CESKÁ STRAKONICE ST9, TT9, TT40, TT45, MT9, MT9L
CZ - CESKA ZBROJOVKA CZ75, CZ75B, CZ75B Stainless, CZ75BD, CZ75BD Police, CZ75 Compact, CZ75D Compact, CZ75 SemiCompact, CZ75 Combat II, CZ85, CZ85B, CZ85 Combat

CZ40B, CZ97B, CZ99, CZ100, CZ100B, CZ101, CZ110, CZ2075 Rami, CZ2075 Rami P

CZ75 P01, CZ75 SP-01, CZ75 SP-01 Tactical, CZ75 SP-01 Shadow, CZ75 SP-01 Sport (9x21mm version with OFM trigger stop as sold in Italy)

(CZUSA Custom Shop CZ 75 SP-01 is not approved)
DAEWOO DP51, DH40

DESERT EAGLE Eagle Compact, Baby Eagle

DLASK 226 clone

EAA Witness (standard steel), Witness-P, Witness (decocker), Witness PS

FEG P9R, P9RK

FN HERSTAL FNP-9, FNP-9M, FNP-40, FNP-40M, FNP-9 DAO, FNP-40 DAO

(Models BDA9, BDA40 are still under evaluation)
GLOCK 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 36, 37, 38, 39

Also approved are variants with original Glock barrels which are longer than standard (e.g. 17A, 17DK, 17PRO), as well as variants with "Tactical", "Mariner" or similar OFM engravings on the slide, provided the barrel length does not exceed 127mm, and provided all other aspects of these variants fully comply with all other Production Division rules.

Not Approved:
18, 24, 25, 28, 34, 35, L and C models
GRAND POWER K100, K100MK6, K-100 Dynamic and P1
H&K USP, USP Stainless, USP Compact, USP Compact Stainless, USP Custom Sport, USP9SD, USP Tactical (barrel 127mm or shorter), USP Compact Tactical

VP70Z, P8, P9S (only with 100mm barrel), P10, P30, P2000 P2000SK

Not Approved:
Mark 23, P7 Series, USP Elite, USP Expert, USP Production
HS PRODUKT HS2000 Series (HS9, HS357, HS40, HS45)
IMI Barak 9, Barak 40, Barak 45
JERICHO 941, 941S, 941F, 941FS, 941FB, 941FBL
KAHR K Series (9mm,40cal, Lady & Elite),
MK Series (9mm, 40cal, Micro & Elite),
P Series (9mm and 40 cal),
PM Series (9mm),
T Series (Target & Tactical),
TP Series
KEL-TEC P11, P40

LLAMA M-82
MAGNUM RESEARCH SP21 (9mm,40SW,45ACP)
MANURHIN MR73 revolvers (3" G3 and 4" G4 models only)

NORINCO NC226, NP18, NP22, NP34, NP40, NZ75, NZ85
PARA-ORDNANCE LDA (all models except Tac-Five and other variants with enlarged magwells)

REPUBLIC ARMS Patriot

RUGER P85, P89, KP89, P90, KP90, P91, KP93, P94, P95, K94/95, KP95, KP345, KP345PR, P97

(Any DAO or DA/SA revolver with a barrel length of up to 5" is approved)


S&W 39, 59, 410, 439, 659, 669, 908, 910, 1006, 1066, 3913, 3913L, 3913TSW, 3914, 3953, 3953STSW, 4006, 4043, 4046, 4013TSW, 4053TSW, 4513TSW, 4553TSW, 457, 4506, 4566, 4586, 5904, 5906, 5946, 6906, 6946

SW99, M&P9, M&P357, M&P40

(Any DAO or DA/SA revolver with a barrel length of up to 5" is approved)

SARSILMAZ Kilinc 2000, Kilinc 2000 Light, Hancer 2000, Hancer 2000 Light
SIG P220, P220-1, P225, P228, P229, P239, P250DCc, P2009, SPC2009, SP2022, SP2340

P226, P226ST, P226 Sport II SL ohne Schiene, P226SL, P226SL Black, P226 Xpress, P226 X-Five Allround, P226 X-Five Tactical (not SAO version), P226R DAK, P226DAO, P226R, P226R Two Tone, P226 SAS, P226 Blackwater, P226 Equinox, P226 Stainless, P226 AL-SO, P226 SL-SO, P226 Sport Stock, P226 X-Five SO (SA/DA version only)

(Also P220, P229, P239 equivalents of approved P226 models with maximum 5" barrel length)

Not Approved:
P220 X-Zone, P220 Sport, P226 Navy, P226 HSP, P226 Sport, P226 Sport II SL mit Schiene, P226 X-Five, P226 X-Five Competition, P226 X-Six, P226R Crimson Trace
SIGMA Compact SW9V, SW40W, SW40VE, SW9VE, SW9M, SW40F, SW40C,
SW9F, SW9C
SPHINX 2000 Series (S, P, PS and H models),
3000 Tactical Series (Stainless, Carry, Police, Titanium)
3000 Compact Series (Stainless, Carry, Police, Titanium)
3000 Standard Series (Police, Titanium, "Competition Production Model 2005")
3000 Standard Series (Stainless, Target)
SPRINGFIELD P9, XD (except ported models)

SPS Compact (SP II, SP II Plus, SP III)

Police Compact (SPII, SPII Plus, SP3)
STAR Megastar, M30, Ultrastar

STEYR M-A1, M9, S9, M40, S40
TANFOGLIO Force 38, Force 38F Carry, Force 38F, Force 38L, Force 40, Force 40F Carry, Force 40F, Force 40L, Force 40R Carry, Force 40R, Force 45, Force 45F Carry, Force 45F, Force 45L, Force 45R Carry, Force 45R, Force 921, Force 921F Carry, Force 921F, Force 921L, Force 921R Carry, Force 921R, Force 99, Force Compact 40, Force Compact 45, Force Compact 921, Force Pro, GT10, GT21 Baby, GT21 Combat, GT21, GT23, GT40 Baby, GT40 Combat, GT40, GT45, P19 Combat, P19 Standard, P19L, P21 Combat, P21L, P23, P23L, P38L, P40 Compact, P40, P40F, P40FB, P40L, P40R, P41, P45, P45L, T94F, T94R, T95F Stock, T95F, T95R, T96F, T96R, T97F, T97L, T97R, TA10 Compact, TA10, TA40FB, TA45 Compact, TA45, TA90 XL2, XL4, Stock, Stock II, L, Combat Sport, TZ-75 C90, Limited PRO

(Stock Custom model is NOT approved for Production Division)

TAURUS PT92, PT911, PT99, PT940, PT945, P945 (except "C" models),
PT100, PT101, PT111, PT140, PT145, PT921, 827, M66, 817,
24/7 (barrel length up to 5").

The 24/7 Pro models are not approved for Production Division.

Any DAO or DA/SA revolver with a barrel length of up to 5" is approved.



VEKTOR SP1, SP2 (not Single Action), Z88
WALTHER P5, P38, P88, P99, P99QA, P99C, P99DAO, P99AS (and compact versions of these models)
WITNESS Witness Steel, Witness Polymer, Witness P Carry, Witness Elite Stock (and subcompact versions)

(Witness Carry Comp, Gold, Silver and Limited versions are not approved)
ZASTAVA CZ99
 
Since when has a USP been not on the list? They are used by many people in Production..how old is this list?
 
We're not really planning to compete in IPSC, just "give her a try" for the fun of it. What we need is suggestions regarding holsters.

I see there are kydex ones and cordura-like fabric too. I'm partial to leather. ;) Anybody have experience with tex shemaker from California? for instance
 
Since when has a USP been not on the list? They are used by many people in Production..how old is this list?


The USP and 7 other models are approved, the Mark 23 and USP Elite (along with 3 other models) are not approved. The list is VERY specific.
 
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