BIG NEWS on DNT Optics 7-35x56.....

Thanks for the feedback Eugene. The general feedback received from customers (and my own experience) has been super popular. And I think the "wow" factor you were looking for, differs from person to person and eyes to eyes. But we would all experience it in a different way as our eyes are not the same.

I think the consensus so far has been that for an $800 scope, it does what it's supposed to do with pretty decent glass, great tactile turrets and a great, usable reticle at all magnifications. One customer even emailed me today to say that right beside his NF ATACR, to his eyes, the glass on his new DNT was a tad better than on his ATACR. I also have had 3 NF ATACR scopes, and I was never happy with the glass, GIVEN the $4800 price point. But I'd get scolded by many for saying that.... But that's my personal view, having owned S&B, NF, Kahles, ZCO, Zeiss LRP-S5 and a Hensoldt. LOL.

I hope you enjoy the scope, and that it does what it's supposed to do for you.

Cheers

Robbie
 
Well, I had my 7-35x ATACR out on my Tikka/KRG Whiskey rig and the new DNT 7-35x "The One" right beside it on my APC 308. While I acknowledge the as expected Arken-like Turrets, fit and finish, and tracking, I cannot equate the glass of the two optics. I don't even find them close, which you would kind of expect when comparing glass costing $5K to a product costing well under $1K. My ATACR maintains a bright, crisp image regardless of magnification, whereas the DNT scope's image becomes noticeably darker from 25x all the way to 35x. "The One" seems to function at its peak at approximately 25x, although it was certainly useable throughout the full magnification range. In addition to being brighter and crisper at high magnification, the ATACR shows colours much more brightly than the DNT glass does. Aside from the glass/coatings, I'd honestly have to say that there isn't very much to separate the two optics aside from their weight. The ATACR is 37.3 oz as compared to "The One's" 42 oz heft. I realize that 5 oz is not a huge amount, but 1/3 of a lb is still 1/3 lb extra on your rifle. Who knows though? Perhaps the DNT scope is more durable than the Nightforce optic, although the latter have rightfully earned a reputation as being bomb-proof. I won't be the one to test the comparative durability of both scopes!

All things considered, I am quite happy with the performance of the DNT scope thus far. Assuming that it retains zero and an Arken-equivalent degree of durability, I will remain happy to keep it on my APC 308. That said, let's not create false expectations - "The One" is NOT a NF ATACR-killer. It just isn't. For $810 (before tax) however, it is a lot of scope!

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Fully agree with your statement, but again stress that different eyes perceive it differently. And no, the Arkens and DNT's are not NF "killers", but for 1/5th price they come remarkably close. Even "hardened operators" like the guys at Paramount Tactical found the Arken EP5 not far off the NF ATACR 5-25 - which says a lot, as they aren't "influencers" - they train people to shoot.

Anyway, the European built scopes and the Tangents will always be my preference, but not everyone has or wants to spend $4000-$8000 on an optic, when an Arken or a DNT can do the job just fine - maybe not as super clear and bright as an optic with European glass.

These Arken and DNT scopes fit the bill just fine, and there are thousands of really happy owners out there. Which is what these are meant for - to get more guys out there shooting. :)
 
Hi, I've upgraded from Vortex Diamondback 3-12x42, no NF etc experience. I've put it on 22LR rifle, and I had no problem with eye relieve, darkening, tracking or the turret. Optically, it is great, I can see bullet holes at 200 yards. A smaller center dot would be nice for benchrest shooting, but this reticle looks good and is usable at all magnifications.
 
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As this was the first thread on these scopes on CGN, I want to ask people of their experience with the scope.
I did not have much time to play with this scope since I got it... I don't have a solid opinion on it just yet.

Here is something I noticed this weekend, when I took the scope out to a range, but this needs further work and analysis.
My rifle (Anschutz MSR 1913 22lr) with this scope is zeroed at 50yd. I was shooting at 100yd paper and dialed up 2mil, which was printing around 2 inches high above the POA. I dialed down to 1.8mil, hitting same area, dialed down to 1.6mil, no change, and then I went down to 1.2mil and was hitting around 2 inch below POA.
This was a very limited shooting session, and I will have to go back and do more testing.


Question: Has anyone else noticed anything like this on their scopes, or are your scopes functioning as expected?
 
EugeneM said:
As this was the first thread on these scopes on CGN, I want to ask people of their experience with the scope.
I did not have much time to play with this scope since I got it... I don't have a solid opinion on it just yet.

Here is something I noticed this weekend, when I took the scope out to a range, but this needs further work and analysis.
My rifle (Anschutz MSR 1913 22lr) with this scope is zeroed at 50yd. I was shooting at 100yd paper and dialed up 2mil, which was printing around 2 inches high above the POA. I dialed down to 1.8mil, hitting same area, dialed down to 1.6mil, no change, and then I went down to 1.2mil and was hitting around 2 inch below POA.
This was a very limited shooting session, and I will have to go back and do more testing.


Question: Has anyone else noticed anything like this on their scopes, or are your scopes functioning as expected?
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Eugene, this is not a common thing at all. I have not had a single Arken or DNT scope not track 100%, and I've sold many hundreds of them. I'm wondering if something else might have been a bit off? Easy way to check it, is to either put your rifle or your scope in a kind of "vise" and then put up a target marked in MIL and slowly turn the turret and see if your reticle is moving as you dial. You can also do this by mounting your rifle or the scope on a stable tripod. Trick is to have your scope not move around at all when you're doing it, so it takes out any possible scope movement error. That's the only way to take you moving your rifle while shooting, and things like flyers and ammo out of the equasion.

You can also ship your scope to me should you be sure it's the scope and not you, your rifle, your ammo or environmental infuences - I have a Collimator here and can check scope tracking.

Cheers

Robbie
 
Shooting Warehouse said:
Eugene, this is not a common thing at all. I have not had a single Arken or DNT scope not track 100%, and I've sold many hundreds of them. I'm wondering if something else might have been a bit off? Easy way to check it, is to either put your rifle or your scope in a kind of "vise" and then put up a target marked in MIL and slowly turn the turret and see if your reticle is moving as you dial. You can also do this by mounting your rifle or the scope on a stable tripod. Trick is to have your scope not move around at all when you're doing it, so it takes out any possible scope movement error. That's the only way to take you moving your rifle while shooting, and things like flyers and ammo out of the equasion.

You can also ship your scope to me should you be sure it's the scope and not you, your rifle, your ammo or environmental infuences - I have a Collimator here and can check scope tracking.

Cheers

Robbie
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Thanks Robbie.
As I stated in my post, I was out for a rather short shoot session when noticed this behavior. I will definitely do a lot more testing before I make a conclusion. I already marked a mil grid to test the tracking, whenever I have a chance to get to the range. More information to follow.
 
EugeneM said:
Thanks Robbie.
As I stated in my post, I was out for a rather short shoot session when noticed this behavior. I will definitely do a lot more testing before I make a conclusion. I already marked a mil grid to test the tracking, whenever I have a chance to get to the range. More information to follow.
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All good - I just wanted to add some "help" - always happy to try and help wherever I can.
 
I was trained that due to mechanical looseness it makes a difference whether you dialed up or down to a given setting, so instead of a click back, do 3 down and 2 back up. The effect would get smaller with quality, but the targets you're spending more money to hit get smaller too!
 
Getting back to my concern with the tracking. I went to the range again and did the tracking test. everything worked as it should.
It must've been a wind messing with my rounds, as there was wind on the day I noticed the issue.

I really like the clicks on this scope!
 
EugeneM said:
Getting back to my concern with the tracking. I went to the range again and did the tracking test. everything worked as it should.
It must've been a wind messing with my rounds, as there was wind on the day I noticed the issue.

I really like the clicks on this scope!
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Super happy to hear that Eugene. Enjoy the scope - they really are great and a bargain price for what one gets.
 
I have been doing a lot of research on the DNT scope, never had the opportunity to look through or touch one. I am currently in the process of building a PRS rifle through Insite Arms and they have recommended TheOne to try. I have used higher end scopes in the past so this is going to be a first using a scope at this price point. I am not sponsored by anyone so its always a battle to raise cash to purchase new gear.

I am hoping this will function adequately for PRS so I can save some cash and eat next week.

Will keep you posted with thoughts and a full review once I am on the range. Fingers crossed.
 
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