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My recent trips have brought together an assortment of over 80 antiques which I will post on my website over the next few weeks. I can process about 15 per week, so this will keep me busy... I have Webley Mk I and II's, Colt SAA's, S&W .44 Double Actions, Targets and Russian models, Belgian and Swedish Nagants, French Service revolvers, Bulldogs, suicide specials and more! Time to treat yourself for Christmas!! Check my website often, and get on my mailing list for advance notice of new inventory.
 
All my imports have to be verified through the RCMP Technical Division, and in due time they will send me the antique letter specific to the serial number of each piece. Only the consignments I receive from Canadian owners will not have a letter unless the owner supplies one with the consignment. As Jon9021 states, it's easy to apply for the letter through the RCMP. They are free (so far...) and just require the taking of a few pictures and a description e-mailed with your contact information. Some get sent out faster than others. I am still waiting for some letters dating back to last spring.
 
All my imports have to be verified through the RCMP Technical Division, and in due time they will send me the antique letter specific to the serial number of each piece. Only the consignments I receive from Canadian owners will not have a letter unless the owner supplies one with the consignment. As Jon9021 states, it's easy to apply for the letter through the RCMP. They are free (so far...) and just require the taking of a few pictures and a description e-mailed with your contact information. Some get sent out faster than others. I am still waiting for some letters dating back to last spring.
So, how do you know that your consignment sale guns are truly antique status if the owner never supplied one? Isn't the Letter from the RCMP the only reliable proof that the gun actually has an antique status? If someone were to buy one of your consignment sales, apply for a letter after the fact and then be told by the RCMP that the gun is not actually antique but is instead restricted/prohibited, that would be a difficult situation for all involved, no?
 
So, how do you know that your consignment sale guns are truly antique status if the owner never supplied one? Isn't the Letter from the RCMP the only reliable proof that the gun actually has an antique status? If someone were to buy one of your consignment sales, apply for a letter after the fact and then be told by the RCMP that the gun is not actually antique but is instead restricted/prohibited, that would be a difficult situation for all involved, no?
Armalytics.ca will give you a free FRT. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that your abrupt condescending questions are because your new to the site…I’ve bought several firearms from Old Guns & he knows his business. Do you think a business would sell illegal firearms??
 
The FRT only helps if all the possible variants listed are classified as antiques. If there is any doubt as to the specific gun, only the letter will be definite proof. For example, if you have a Colt M1877 Thunderer in .41 LC it could be antique, restricted, or prohib, depending on the serial number and the barrel length. The FRT's don't usually list the serial number cut-off (some do), and unless you have the supporting documentation proving that your particular serial number falls into pre-1898 territory, the FRT would not help. Just today I had two inquiries about this - one was for a Colt SAA I sold last summer (with factory letter confirming age and caliber), and the other for a S&W New Model No. 3. In both cases the status was undeniably antique. The Colt is in .41 LC with the letter stating shipment in the early 1890's, and all variants for the S&W in .44 Russian are considered antique. No ambiguities there.
If any of my customers ever find that they are having difficulties obtaining an antique letter for a gun I sold them, I would either take it back for a full refund, or help them get the letter. I have not run into this problem yet.
 
Thank you both for providing the information. I am sorry if you took my questions as disrespectful. I did not accuse anyone of illegally selling firearms. I was simply asking about how the verification process works. I am in an extremely liberal area in Ontario where the police will confiscate your gun first, and ask questions later.

Chris, that makes sense. I guess if someone did run into a particular pre-1898 model that had both antique and prohibited variants status listed in the FRT, they would need the RCMP letter - simple as that.
 
Thank you both for providing the information. I am sorry if you took my questions as disrespectful. I did not accuse anyone of illegally selling firearms. I was simply asking about how the verification process works. I am in an extremely liberal area in Ontario where the police will confiscate your gun first, and ask questions later.
No offense taken. I hear you about the "take your guns first and ask questions later". Unfortunately, they can do that. That's why it is a good idea to have your ducks in a row...
 
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