Bill C-21 and action shooting sports

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Bill C-21 and the provisions therein obviously will have a detrimental effect on action shooting sports. The OIC has already negatively impacted them.

The proposed provisions to allow municipalities to enact regulations affecting handguns will have further negative effect.

(It remains to be seen, of course, whether those provisions would withstand challenge, even if they pass Parliament.)

There is an exception in Section 58.01(7) that will be of particular interest (highlighted below):

26 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 58:
Conditions — by-law
58.#01 (1) Subject to subsection (2), the following conditions are attached to a licence authorizing an individual to possess a handgun:
(a) the individual must not — within the boundaries of a municipality — store a handgun at a place other than a business that is the holder of a licence that authorizes it to store prohibited firearms or restricted firearms, in the case where
(i) a by-law to that effect is in force in the municipality,
(ii) the municipality has notified the federal Minister, in the prescribed manner, of the passing of the by-law, and
(iii) the municipality has provided the prescribed information to the federal Minister, or a person designated by that Minister, in the prescribed manner;
(b) the individual must not store a handgun within the boundaries of a municipality and must not transport it to or from a place within those boundaries other than to or from a place a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer is located, to a port of exit in order to take it outside Canada, or from a port of entry in order to bring it inside Canada, in the case where
(i) a by-law to that effect is in force in the municipality,
(ii) the municipality has notified the federal Minister, in the prescribed manner, of the passing of the by-law, and
(iii) the municipality has provided the prescribed information to the federal Minister, or a person designated by that Minister, in the prescribed manner; and
(c) the individual must comply with any prescribed requirements relating to the storage — within the boundaries of a municipality — of a handgun, in the case where
(i) a by-law to that effect is in force in the municipality,
(ii) the municipality has notified the federal Minister, in the prescribed manner, of the passing of the by-law, and
(iii) the municipality has provided the prescribed information to the federal Minister, or a person designated by that Minister, in the prescribed manner.
Application of conditions
(2) The conditions referred to in paragraphs (1)#(a) to (c) apply only if a period of 180 days has elapsed since the day on which a notice is sent by the federal Minister to a municipality under subsection (3).
Notice to municipality
(3) The federal Minister must notify the municipality once the federal Minister is satisfied that the criteria referred to in paragraph (1)#(a), (b) or (c) has been met, as the case may be.
Notice — application of condition
(4) After a notification has been sent to a municipality under subsection (3), the Registrar must give notice, in the prescribed manner, to the holders of a registration certificate who store a handgun in the municipality in question, of
(a) the date on which a condition referred to in paragraph (1)#(a), (b) or (c) applies; and
(b) the obligations with which the holders must comply.
Notice to federal Minister
(5) A municipality must notify the federal Minister, in the prescribed manner, once a by-law referred to in subsection (1) is no longer in force.
Notice to licence holders
(6) After a notice referred to in subsection (5) is received by the federal Minister or if the Registrar otherwise becomes aware that a by-law referred to in subsection (1) has ceased to be in force, the Registrar must give notice, in the prescribed manner, to the holders of a licence authorizing the holder to possess prohibited firearms or restricted firearms who reside in the municipality in question of the date on which a condition ceases to apply.
Exceptions
(7) The conditions referred to in paragraphs (1) (a) to (c) do not apply to a handgun
(a) that has been declared, in the prescribed manner, by an individual who holds a licence authorizing the individual to possess the handgun to be necessary for their training for a prescribed sporting competition;
(b) for which an individual holds an authorization to carry; or
(c) in the prescribed circumstances or for a prescribed purpose. [emphasis mine]
Publication by the Commissioner
(8) The Commissioner must maintain a publicly available list of the municipalities where a condition referred to in subsection (1) applies.
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The action shooting sports may require some collective action to ensure that we are among the acceptable "prescribed sporting competitions".
 
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Oz has some kind of exemption like that. There are a minimum # of matches you need to compete in to retain your handgun.
 
Who determines what is a recognized sport? Who has to recognize it ? Is it the crown prince.
Anyone in this group that thinks that ipsic or idpa is not a sport really needs to check there priorities
 
They are more legitimate as sports than most sports in this country. I’ve never seen such organization at the matches I’ve been to for both.
 
Just awful we have to keep justifying our “privilege” to quote that drunken buffoon. While the real dangers to society have no restrictions put on them. It’s maddening!!
 
I'll predict "prescribed" will be decided by the gov't and itll be biathlon, Olympic free pistol, air rifle and trap/skeet.
 
I didnt see anything for target shooters and collectors.
Maybe this will wake up a few more people?
 
They're pushing for everything they can under the pandemic.

Some deal with covid related issues, our pub safety / emerg preparedness minister is going after ipsc
 
CV32 said:
Bill C-21 and the provisions therein obviously will have a detrimental effect on action shooting sports. The OIC has already negatively impacted them.

The proposed provisions to allow municipalities to enact regulations affecting handguns will have further negative effect.

(It remains to be seen, of course, whether those provisions would withstand challenge, even if they pass Parliament.)

There is an exception in Section 58.01(7) that will be of particular interest (highlighted below):



The action shooting sports may require some collective action to ensure that we are among the acceptable "prescribed sporting competitions".
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Have you considered that this may be a reference to the regulations already in existance which prescribe certain 25 and 32 calibre handguns as being used in certain sports.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-465/FullText.html
 
IPSC Canada is not in the business of interfering with government regulations, or lobbying the government.....ask the President of IPSC Canada.....

Makes sense right???

(This post will disappear in 10.....9.....8.....7.....6......(or how ever long it takes the IPSC Canada President to contact Greentips)....lol) Site sponsorship has its privileges....
 
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CV32 said:
Yes. The question is whether there will be further opportunity for other sports.
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Of course Id love to see every conceivable sporting group added to the list, but I forsee ipsc and especially idpa being a little too much into the realm of advocating violence that the government wont want to go there.

Obviously I dont agree that teaching people self defense with a gun is advocating violence any more than any other martial art is but liberals wont see it that way.

It would probably require a significantblobbying effort and PR campaign to convince the government to add more to the list, but I for one think our limited resources are better spent opposing the bill as a whole.

Complaining about what sports are on the stupid list is like repainting the deck chairs on thw titanic.
 
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