Bill S-223

captainamazing said:
No politician will state what is on their mind (expect maybe Trump). They must remain ambiguous enough to be able to flip flop or betray the people at any time.
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At least one politician (senator) disagree with you.



Dear Mr. X,

Thank you for your letter regarding Bill S-223 the so called ““Strengthening Canadians’ Security and Promoting Hunting and Recreational Shooting Act” which was introduced on April 12th by the now retired Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette.

I do agree that this legislation places a number of unnecessary and onerous restrictions on law-abiding firearms owners in Canada. As a result, I do not support this bill.

Sincerely,

Nancy Greene Raine
 
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The nice thing about being a Senator is they don't have to give a flying fuq about what we think.

And the expense account. And the travel account. Living allowance. Staff allowance.
FF
 
I've gotten replies from at least 10 senators at this point stating that they do not support the bill and will be voting against it
So at least there's that
 
That's the trouble with socialists of any variety, good intentions always excuse them (in their own minds) for being absolutely wrong. Sunny ways...
 
serbinator said:
bill was just adopted by another quebec liberal ####head
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Well, maybe this person is still thinking about their motion ? Take a read on the latest speech and watch for further updates. It appears the new introducer does not yet have their "notes" all together yet to make a speech re the June 21 link. But stay tuned to the official commons news unless some of you have other sources.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/LEGISInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&billId=8177186&View=0

Rj
 
Pumpjack said:
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Tactical fanny pack?
 
Could someone please name the politician who is reviving Payette's dead bill? I cant find anything about it in the news.
 
Dr.Islay said:
Joan Fraser:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/SenatorsBio/senator_biography.aspx?senator_id=142


Be aware that she has not revived it (yet, anyway).

What she's done is ask the Speaker for more time to actually read the damned thing, which was granted.
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Thanks for the response. So should we not all be sending her letters, respectful in tone, but clearly stating that this bill is ineffective, outrageous, and an infringement upon the rights of law abiding citizens, and that we will work tirelessly against any part of the government that tries to pass this or similar legislation. She may find it a little overwhelming and not worth it when all her means of communication are swamped with protest letters from gun enthusiasts.
 
gord1986 said:
Can they really force you to turn them in without compensation? Wouldn't that violate the charter of rights?
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Yes, they can.

Someone said below "since they are giving you a choice, no compensation" - that is not true. The choice doesn't matter.

In Canada, we do not have property rights. Our ability to own property is not constitutionally protected. The government could create and pass a law banning people from owning cars, and confiscate all the cars tomorrow, and we'd have no LEGAL recourse, really. Parliament has the authority to decide to ban something if they feel it's justified in the interests of public safety or in the interests of society in general.
 
PSYLNZ said:
Thanks for the response. So should we not all be sending her letters, respectful in tone, but clearly stating that this bill is ineffective, outrageous, and an infringement upon the rights of law abiding citizens, and that we will work tirelessly against any part of the government that tries to pass this or similar legislation. She may find it a little overwhelming and not worth it when all her means of communication are swamped with protest letters from gun enthusiasts.
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Yes, we should. All of us.
 
Ugh, I was calm until I started reading more about this again.

Talk about looking for a solution without a problem.

People who think banning guns will stop violence are fools. Violence, no matter how it is perpetrated, gun, knife, baseball bat, and as we have seen in Nice, France, by truck, has far deeper causes than "these people should not own item X or Y". Violence has to do with marginalization, violence has socio-economic orgins, violence occurs when people feel helpless.

Instead of the government looking to waste millions of dollars on this, why not invest more in mental health, treatment of mental illness, etc. The old say "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" applies here. People who go on murderous rampages do so not because they're well adjusted, happy people. They do it because they feel helpless, cast aside, and feel like life has no worth.

This senator, who I remind us all, was NOT elected. Her cherry-picking of statistics paints a grim picture of us versus socialist European democracies is disingenuous at best.

The penalty for good men and women not becoming involved in politics is to have decisions made for them by lesser ones.

//End Rant
 
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