Biodegradable clay pigeons in Canada

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I have access to some land where I can shoot clay pigeons but I don't want to contaminate the field with bits of petroleum pitch binder that regular clay pigeons use.

Google says there are these White Flyer biodegradable targets where the clay and the binder is biodegradable ... does anyone know where to get something similar in Canada? Otherwise I suppose I could just head over to the US to pick them up.

There was some news buzz a few years ago about making clay pigeons from ice but I don't think that get anywhere.
 
sub40 said:
I have access to some land where I can shoot clay pigeons but I don't want to contaminate the field with bits of petroleum pitch binder that regular clay pigeons use.

Google says there are these White Flyer biodegradable targets where the clay and the binder is biodegradable ... does anyone know where to get something similar in Canada? Otherwise I suppose I could just head over to the US to pick them up.

There was some news buzz a few years ago about making clay pigeons from ice but I don't think that get anywhere.
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http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/sport...e&utm_source=AskAndAnswer&utm_content=Default
 
Lawry also has biodegradable aswell as WF. They are noticable harder then regular clays. They are pretty easily available as alot of clubs seem to be switching to them.
 
If you ask Lawrys they will provide you with a toxicity report on ALL their targets they manufacture. Paying extra for bio-degradable is a waste of $$. You would have to shoot hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of targets in a short concentrated time period to have any effect on your property and even then you would have more issues from the shotshell fallout than target breakdown/leaching. We had to have an environmental study dine at a facilty we closed and moved in 2000. After being in existence since 1976, 24 years at a 4 trap/2 skeet field range that was in use year round every soil report came up with no traces of anything including the lead shot fallout zone. We never had to do one ounce of clean up other than cosmetic.
 
the spank said:
If you ask Lawrys they will provide you with a toxicity report on ALL their targets they manufacture. Paying extra for bio-degradable is a waste of $$. You would have to shoot hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of targets in a short concentrated time period to have any effect on your property and even then you would have more issues from the shotshell fallout than target breakdown/leaching. We had to have an environmental study dine at a facilty we closed and moved in 2000. After being in existence since 1976, 24 years at a 4 trap/2 skeet field range that was in use year round every soil report came up with no traces of anything including the lead shot fallout zone. We never had to do one ounce of clean up other than cosmetic.
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Thanks for sharing. I wish all those preaching the use of steel shot would read your post.
 
the spank said:
If you ask Lawrys they will provide you with a toxicity report on ALL their targets they manufacture. Paying extra for bio-degradable is a waste of $$. You would have to shoot hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of targets in a short concentrated time period to have any effect on your property and even then you would have more issues from the shotshell fallout than target breakdown/leaching. We had to have an environmental study dine at a facilty we closed and moved in 2000. After being in existence since 1976, 24 years at a 4 trap/2 skeet field range that was in use year round every soil report came up with no traces of anything including the lead shot fallout zone. We never had to do one ounce of clean up other than cosmetic.
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So you reclaimed all the shot ?
 
#1bcshooter said:
So you reclaimed all the shot ?
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No sir not one ounce was ever picked up and the company that did the testing was hired by the native band we leased the property from. Their reports came back saying there was no soil contamination which was a relief because the band was not being overly co-operative to deal with after the new council change and we knew we'd be put through the wringer if anything showed up which we were sure it would. We saw all the markers mapped out for the soil samples and they were square in the zone. I don't understand how they tested but I wasn't about to argue when they gave us the thumbs up!
 
the spank said:
No sir not one ounce was ever picked up and the company that did the testing was hired by the native band we leased the property from. Their reports came back saying there was no soil contamination which was a relief because the band was not being overly co-operative to deal with after the new council change and we knew we'd be put through the wringer if anything showed up which we were sure it would. We saw all the markers mapped out for the soil samples and they were square in the zone. I don't understand how they tested but I wasn't about to argue when they gave us the thumbs up!
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I was part of a club that did soil samples that existed about half as long as yours and the samples showed volatiles from pitch targets and lead. I guess we should have hired the outfit that tested yours.
 
Westward1 said:
I was part of a club that did soil samples that existed about half as long as yours and the samples showed volatiles from pitch targets and lead. I guess we should have hired the outfit that tested yours.
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Believe me we were expecting a major clean up. When they came back saying all the samples were good and we could leave everything as is with just a cosmetic tune up we did not argue.
 
Bogman said:
They take way longer than a couple years to break down
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The first year I attended the Grand American(1987) I can recall seeing them loading the traps if memory serves with Remington Blue Rock targets and I can remember the print on top of the boxes in bold letters saying "Not Toxic to Pigs". I can still recall that striking me as funny because I can recall thinking who would feed these things to pigs or shoot trap in a barn? LOL
 
the spank said:
No sir not one ounce was ever picked up and the company that did the testing was hired by the native band we leased the property from. Their reports came back saying there was no soil contamination which was a relief because the band was not being overly co-operative to deal with after the new council change and we knew we'd be put through the wringer if anything showed up which we were sure it would. We saw all the markers mapped out for the soil samples and they were square in the zone. I don't understand how they tested but I wasn't about to argue when they gave us the thumbs up!
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So where do you think the lead went ?
It didn't just evaporate .:rolleyes:
Lots of dead lead poisoned birds in your area ?
 
#1bcshooter said:
So where do you think the lead went ?
It didn't just evaporate .:rolleyes:
Lots of dead lead poisoned birds in your area ?
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I have no idea and like I said I never questioned it once. I was happy we didn't have to spend lots of $ before setting up a new facility and left it at that. And no there wasn't any poisoned birds around that I was aware of.
 
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