Bipods?? + bags

cslater

cslater

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Hi,

New to shooting beyond 200m and looking for some advice. Rifle is Tikka Tac A1 in 6.5cm that has a Vortex PST gen2 5-25 (while I sniff out a good deal on a Razor gen 2 hopefully...) Rifle currently has a plastic picatinny rail installed at the end of the handguard. Have currently hit steel at 900m but looking to go further (say 1200m) and have better hits. Long range shooting is in the bush on cut blocks etc (not a flat range with benches etc).

The guys I have gone with all have bipods (Harris) and also use a pack to shoot of off. I have seen Harris bipods with pic rail attachments for under $200. The lowest price Atlas for $300 looks interesting as well.

I know I need a rear bag, any recommendations? Looking for something light as we are hiking around.

My only experience with bipods has been on machine guns. Should I forget the bipod and get a light front bag or just shoot from a backpack?

Thanks for your opinions,
Chris
 
An atlas Bipod is a great choice. I have a Harris as well with an American defense QD pic rail adapter. I think I prefer the atlas over the Harris. Look at the atlas cal gen 2. Seems to be a popular option for field shooting. Rear bags are tougher to get right in my experience. I have alot. I'm enjoying a pint size gamechanger as well as a warhorse development bag. Check out gobig tactical for bipods and bags.
 
I ran with a harris bipod on every gun I owned. Finally though I just swapped it out to a rucksack. Found it way more comfortable and doesn't had weight to the gun.

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You are going to be more precise shooting off of a rear bag and bipod then a backpack. While a backpack can be used in such a manner in a pinch, it's a poor substitute for a rear bag and bipod unless it's one of your only options.

A proper rear bag will allow the rifle to "settle in", and it will cradle that rifle, which will assist you in consistency from shot to shot (along with your ability to properly and consistently apply the fundamentals). The function of the rear bag is to support the rear of the rifle, while not disrupting the rifles ability to go straight to the rear under recoil. There are many rear bags out there, with different shapes, sizes, fills and options. Rear bags are kind of subjective, most people end up trying a bunch before they settle on on. I probably have ~4 or 5 different rear bags in my shooting room right now. My current favorite is the Precision Underground ELR bag, though I'm not sure if there is a distributor in Canada.

For bipods, if you can afford it, I would highly recommend an Atlas CAL over a Harris. A Harris will work, but their design hasn't changed in decades, and have been surpassed by other manufacturers in details, features and quality. Atlas is a great general purpose bipod, and the CAL is a really nice feature (I wish my Atlas's were CAL's, but that feature wasn't around when I purchased my bipod).
 
Hi everyone, thanks for the excellent comments and advice. I found a fair deal on an Atlas here on CGN that is working it's way to me. In regards to a rear bag I checked out Coretac and they have quite a few but the Str8laced ultralight has caught my eye, due to being 1/4 the weight of the others. Has anyone had any experience with this model?

Thanks
Chris
 
Precision Underground will ship to Canada, the cost was $40 to Vancouver when I inquired a few months ago.


kthomas said:
You are going to be more precise shooting off of a rear bag and bipod then a backpack. While a backpack can be used in such a manner in a pinch, it's a poor substitute for a rear bag and bipod unless it's one of your only options.

A proper rear bag will allow the rifle to "settle in", and it will cradle that rifle, which will assist you in consistency from shot to shot (along with your ability to properly and consistently apply the fundamentals). The function of the rear bag is to support the rear of the rifle, while not disrupting the rifles ability to go straight to the rear under recoil. There are many rear bags out there, with different shapes, sizes, fills and options. Rear bags are kind of subjective, most people end up trying a bunch before they settle on on. I probably have ~4 or 5 different rear bags in my shooting room right now. My current favorite is the Precision Underground ELR bag, though I'm not sure if there is a distributor in Canada.

For bipods, if you can afford it, I would highly recommend an Atlas CAL over a Harris. A Harris will work, but their design hasn't changed in decades, and have been surpassed by other manufacturers in details, features and quality. Atlas is a great general purpose bipod, and the CAL is a really nice feature (I wish my Atlas's were CAL's, but that feature wasn't around when I purchased my bipod).
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cslater said:
Hi everyone, thanks for the excellent comments and advice. I found a fair deal on an Atlas here on CGN that is working it's way to me. In regards to a rear bag I checked out Coretac and they have quite a few but the Str8laced ultralight has caught my eye, due to being 1/4 the weight of the others. Has anyone had any experience with this model?

Thanks
Chris
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I've personally have never tried the Str8laced, but it's a very popular rear bag and I'm sure for good reason. It's a good size and a good shape, certainly a very good starting point on your rear bag journey.

Light fill has it's pro's and cons. Great for saving weight, but you do give up on some stability in the rear. Lightweight fills are much more apt to shifting around under recoil, so it's harder to maintain shot-to-shot consistency. Since you have been shooting off of a backpack up to this point, it's probably not a deal breaker, as it will still be an improvement. Some lightweight fills are better then others, and perhaps TAB has got a good one nailed down.

If weight is very important to you, I would certainly give the lightweight fill a go. If stability/support in the rear is more important then weight, then I would opt for a heavier fill.
 
My mother is a seamstress, I got her to save me a couple of pant legs that she had shortened and bought some of the plastic airsoft bbs to fill them with. Light, cheep, and no problem if they get wet.
 
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