Black Badge Ontario?

If Silverdale wants a black badge course, they just need to have their club rep contact the training coordinator.

What a petty response. Knowing that there isn't a club rep for Silverdale at this time, this is just a jab at the lineup of people who want to do their BB course at Silverdale. Why don't you be the man and step up as the BB coordinator and make something happen. As both a board member and the BB coordinator I would think that you have what's best for IPSC in mind and get the ball rolling. Remember, you volunteered to do both of these things, if you don't want to do either, step down.
 
You know... I like and seem to get along with most people. Most people know I tell it like it is... and this is how it is... You guys are doing more harm for IPSC by squabbling on here at each other. I understand that neither one of you are in a position of power to ban each other from here, nor are you guys breaking any rules, but I would expect that the feuding who happen away from the public eye. Are we trying to promote the game here or drive people away when they read the bickering that goes on?

Maybe people discuss things here because the ipsc Ontario Web administration team is so ban-happy, and lock any thread they don't agree with.
 
You could do the BB in a day but you'd be unsafe, uneducated and wholly unable to IPSC with any kind of confidence. This kind of education does not come from the lowest bidder.

I've shot CQB and have been shooting pistol for a couple of years now and amazingly have never shot myself!...(it's amazing how things work when you keep your finger out of the trigger!!). The fact that I have to spend $200 and blow 500 rounds of ammo to prove that I can safely holster my firearm is ludicrous, it should cost significantly less and use less ammo, this is just another money grab.
 
Well if your that passionate about the sport and your club why not be the club rep.

I can't see it being up to the board or coordinate to go to clubs and knock on doors to set up courses.

If there are enough people at that club wanting a BB course and enough members there to support it it's sad none will step and be club rep and arraign the course.

Mind you it's always easier to blame someone else isn't it.
 
Well if your that passionate about the sport and your club why not be the club rep.

I can't see it being up to the board or coordinate to go to clubs and knock on doors to set up courses.

If there are enough people at that club wanting a BB course and enough members there to support it it's sad none will step and be club rep and arraign the course.

Mind you it's always easier to blame someone else isn't it.

You obviously don't see a lot of stuff. Never did I say it was up to the board to arrange courses. But both the board and the BB coordinator know there are lots of people waiting to take the courses. It would be in the best interest of IPSC to setup BB courses to bring in the new shooters.

You obviously don't know me either or how passionate I am. I volunteer a lot of time to the game but cannot commit to being a club rep.

There were on average 20 people a month at Silverdale doing the BB course before stuff happened so there is a proven desire for courses there on an ongoing basis.

I'm not blaming anyone btw. I'm saying those people who have volunteered to perform certain roles within IPSC Ontario need to step up to the plate and actually perform the roles, or they need to step down.

And who are you anyhow?
 
...Mind you it's always easier to blame someone else isn't it.

It is even easier to prohibit things and ban people you dislike or disagree with, instead of trying to work things out. That's seem to became a common theme between IPSC Ontario directors and officers, but because they are directors, they can do pretty much anything they want.

If you read previous comments of Ontario BB coordinator, it is pretty obvious that with the current shortage of the slots at the matches in Ontario, organization is not exactly interested to see an increase in the membership numbers, unless those new members will run their own matches at their own clubs. For all I can tell, that is a not well thought position and it will be hurting a sport in a long run.
 
Ok, so obviously there is tension between a few individuals.

If my recolection of the IPSC policies is accurate, I believe this can only be settled one way.
Break-dance off.
Old school rules
We'll get David Bowie to be the judge.

Its the only way.
 
Ok, so obviously there is tension between a few individuals.

If my recolection of the IPSC policies is accurate, I believe this can only be settled one way.
Break-dance off.
Old school rules
We'll get David Bowie to be the judge.

Its the only way.

So, pauls, how all that helped you to get IPSC Shotgun matches going at Sharon. :)

I'm just saying what I observe. If Kent don't like that... well, he is the one who is making those decisions.
 
Sharon is its own special animal.
Not sure I ever really spoke to him about matches there, so in fairness, to my knowledge he wasn't a factor.
If it was behind the scenes, I can't comment on that.
As for others, a lot of lip service and no cooperation so I took the matches elsewhere.
 
I wasn't referring specifically to Kent there and I could be mistaken, but Kent been on the board of directors at Sharon too...
 
When I originally setup that forum; it was to give members a place to speak their mind without fear. It was never intended to be used as means of message control for the administration but rather an open dialog. Guess some people just don't like the idea of being able to speak your mind so they ban and delete what they don't like.
 
Sadly in the past I have been guilty of using "friendship" instead of what is good for the shooters! I honestly preferred when Eugene was involved even though I wanted him out in the past. As far as Alex he has been nothing but good for us shooters with great matches and training. No I'm not sick, I just want what is best for the shooters and don't care who dislikes who personally as that should have nothing to do with what's best for the members.

I was going to run for the board but sadly I changed my mind for personal reasons. It's funny as I was pushing for more policing of the board before Recoskie got on and was happy he got in but it's turned into a power hungry, biased forum where you constantly walk on egg shells. Sad.
 
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You obviously don't see a lot of stuff. Never did I say it was up to the board to arrange courses. But both the board and the BB coordinator know there are lots of people waiting to take the courses. It would be in the best interest of IPSC to setup BB courses to bring in the new shooters.

You obviously don't know me either or how passionate I am. I volunteer a lot of time to the game but cannot commit to being a club rep.

There were on average 20 people a month at Silverdale doing the BB course before stuff happened so there is a proven desire for courses there on an ongoing basis.

I'm not blaming anyone btw. I'm saying those people who have volunteered to perform certain roles within IPSC Ontario need to step up to the plate and actually perform the roles, or they need to step down.

And who are you anyhow?

Who me? I am just another member who when wanted to become one well I went found a club talked to the rep and got on a course. I didn't wait for it to come to me.

I have been at the odd match here and there set ups tear downs whatever is needed. Don't shoot as much as I should tend to be to involved in other aspects.

I know how involved you are and what you have contributed to the sport I would never speak less of you which is why I suggested you take it to the next level.

And with over 1400 members and matches everywhere less then half full I have to wonder do we need more members or do we need more shooters.
 
The way I see it is that the BB coordinator had an issue with Alex and couldn't do much about it last year because it would have been Mike/Pat vs. Alex/Simar/Shane for board approval of removing Alex as a BB Instructor. This year with the board being primarily anti-Alex it was easy for the BB coordinator to use the fine print to settle his personal issue with Alex.

I could see if the BB bank account was empty the remittance being and issue, I could also see if the money never showed up but what I can't see is that the decision was made even though Alex notified people he would be out of the country and remit the money once he got back.

So what does all of this have to do with this thread? Well if you look at the fact that Alex was running 20 people a month through the BB course before all this happened, we know that he brought a lot of value in for IPSC. At this point nobody has filled that void even though I was assured by several members of the board that BB courses would be available. Where are they? That's why we have threads like this.

Interestingly enough, even though the board is mostly anti-Alex and I am sure condoned his removal as a BB instructor, if you single any of them out individually they are quick to throw the BB coordinator under the bus and claim that it is his sole decision and the IPSC Ontario constitution prevents them from be able to reverse any decision he makes. Amazing what you hear when you single any of them out.

edit: everything I have said in this thread is my own opinion or observations, strictly mine.
 
When I originally setup that forum; it was to give members a place to speak their mind without fear. It was never intended to be used as means of message control for the administration but rather an open dialog. Guess some people just don't like the idea of being able to speak your mind so they ban and delete what they don't like.

It's sad what happens when Vince gets control of a forum
 
+1 about Alex's IPSC skills and his matches at Silverdale. Enjoy them thoroughly!!!
Just wish they can deal with mud on the ranges somehow.

Unfortunately Alex's instructor status was removed by IPSC Ontario BB coordinator (from what I know because of a technical dispute on following BB program policy, like paperwork after the courses delayed few days), so he can't run BB courses anymore. But if you got your black badge, I would recommend Alex for an advanced IPSC skill training and his matches at Silvedale are the best ones in the province.
 
Sad to hear about Alex :-(
I'll go shoot IDPA now... :-(

The way I see it is that the BB coordinator had an issue with Alex and couldn't do much about it last year because it would have been Mike/Pat vs. Alex/Simar/Shane for board approval of removing Alex as a BB Instructor. This year with the board being primarily anti-Alex it was easy for the BB coordinator to use the fine print to settle his personal issue with Alex.

I could see if the BB bank account was empty the remittance being and issue, I could also see if the money never showed up but what I can't see is that the decision was made even though Alex notified people he would be out of the country and remit the money once he got back.

So what does all of this have to do with this thread? Well if you look at the fact that Alex was running 20 people a month through the BB course before all this happened, we know that he brought a lot of value in for IPSC. At this point nobody has filled that void even though I was assured by several members of the board that BB courses would be available. Where are they? That's why we have threads like this.

Interestingly enough, even though the board is mostly anti-Alex and I am sure condoned his removal as a BB instructor, if you single any of them out individually they are quick to throw the BB coordinator under the bus and claim that it is his sole decision and the IPSC Ontario constitution prevents them from be able to reverse any decision he makes. Amazing what you hear when you single any of them out.

edit: everything I have said in this thread is my own opinion or observations, strictly mine.
 
Sharon is its own special animal.
Not sure I ever really spoke to him about matches there, so in fairness, to my knowledge he wasn't a factor.
If it was behind the scenes, I can't comment on that.
As for others, a lot of lip service and no cooperation so I took the matches elsewhere.


edit to add: memory isn't what it used to be.

Kent actually did try and help get me match dates for shotgun matches at Sharon.
So much going on this year, slipped my mind.
Credit where credit is due.
 
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