Black Badge Questions....

If you are uncomfortable about someone, do you just say, sorry, but.....
We've ended relationships with "and don't come back".

I'd like to think so. These courses are at least as much about everyone else in the shooting community as about the student himself. Any responsible student would surely see it that way too. Its about preserving the one hole per ass limit regardless of the owner.
 
Guess what? I'm going to be instructing this one.

You won't need 1000 rounds, I think the club coordinator put that as a ball park figure. I would say bring 500, I usually have the students fire close to 400. I also ensure that every shot counts and isn't wasted.

While the course is designed to teach IPSC rules and conduct at matches, I've found that, through interviews and interaction with participants after the course, they inform me that they received a lot of information and skills development related to safety, safe range conduct and shooting.

The BB course is also accepted by other disciplines at other clubs to ensure that you can safetly participate. It's easy to make the jump over to IDPA and it's easy to jump into 3 gun. Some matches won't let you compete without a BB or IDPA safety course.

As to the screening aspect... I have no qualms about sending someone home especially if they are danger to themselves or others. However, I've learned that internet personas and the real person can be different....
 
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1) Why is it SO expensive?? Lets see: $50 instructor fee, $50 Course fee and a $70 membership fee. 1000 rounds of ammo- not everybody has a thousand rounds just kicking around.
I understand some of the reasons of why its that high: ie- overhead costs, new membership paperwork, etc., but has anyone ever considered looking for an economy priced Black Badge course.

2) What exactly is taught at Black Badge courses? I get that it teaches the fundamentals of safe holstering and unholstering your weapon- but why can't that be taught with a holster and a plastic replica of a handgun? Why does it take a 1000 rounds to do, when it could (correct if wrong, haven't done it) be done with less.

3) Is it essentially worth it? Yes- to compete in IPSC, and other handgun competitions its required, but what about for the average shooter who wants to use a holster? I know at some ranges, to use a holster, you must be Black Badge Certified, but what about other ranges, where it isn't mandatory?

4) Now this point- (and question)- drive me up the wall- why does everyone literally pronounce IPSC as "ipsec"? Its an acronym! Why not pronouce it "I P S C"? What- wow, it takes 1 more second to say it that way! Am I the only one who spells it out?

1 .. If 1000 rounds is too expensive for you then don't bother. If a couple hundred dollars (which includes your annual membership and first match) is too expensive for you, then don't bother. I know people who shoot that much in a week. Personally I shoot 500+ rounds every week. "expensive" is relative to your income I guess.

2 .. Already been explained to you by more patient folks like ndb86. With your crap attitude, I wouldn't bother trying to explain it to you.

3 .. Average shooters shouldn't be using a holster. Until and unless properly trained there is no way I would let you use a holster at my range when I'm the Safety Officer (not speaking about IPSC, just the range). I'm in charge of that range and responsible and in control of it. If you're not qualified, you won't be using a holster. If I don't feel you are competent, you won't be using a holster. Qualified (ie, passed a minimum requirement) does NOT equal competent.

4 .. Really? This annoys you that much that you make an asinine and childish remark about it? If you don't like it, don't ever show up to a BB course or an IPSC match because you will hear it all day long.

Seriously, if you're looking for advice, don't go about it by pissing people off with an uninformed opinion thrown into a "how do i do this" post. And judging by several of the replies here (and looking at other posts you've made) you are definitely competent at doing that.
 
+1 on what Tritium said. You can be the safest, fastest and most accurate shooter on the course but if your attitude sucks and you do not play well with others the instructor is under no obligation to let you pass the course.
 
+1 on what Tritium said. You can be the safest, fastest and most accurate shooter on the course but if your attitude sucks and you do not play well with others the instructor is under no obligation to let you pass the course.

And you won't become Facebook friends with other Ipsikers either....




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It's about certification.

Often missed when explaining the black badge course is the fact that it is a certification course. Our instructors test you in a controlled environment through increasingly difficult competencies to ensure that when you are unleashed on our events; you are safe.

Ultimately, it is up to the student to prove (with our assistance) to the instructors that you are fit to be on the range with us doing what we do.

Please, folks - don't waste the instructor's time and your time at a black badge course if you have no interest in shooting the sport.
If I had a reliable way of filtering the people who take it and won't shoot at least one match afterwards; I'd put it in place in a heartbeat.

If you do plan on participating in our sport; you'll find the BB course welcoming, worthwhile and enjoyable, and the competitions later that much more so. :cheers:
 
And to dispel a myth... I took my BB the same month I received my PAL.

It's useful, not necessary, to have extensive experience with your forearm before taking the course. Know how it works, how to handle it properly, go out and learn the proper techniques.
 
Cancellations are the worst. Especially after you turn others away. Argh. Some have good reasons though....but others like "i just want to shoot a match" , are sad. They want the cake, but don't want to put any time into it making it. I think i am going to get deposits or paid in full for future courses.
 
I had no qualms about paying in full at the 2-week mark before the course. There are limited spots and high demand. Not only is it the financial consideration here, but also the needless wasting of a spot that someone else coile have had.

My range here runs the BB every other week. All courses are full until June right now from what I hear.
 
Never had anyone complain about the course after taking it
There are a lot of reasons people don't make it to a match
As a side benefit I find people who have taken a BB course are much more safety aware on the range
Which is always a good thing
 
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