Black Creek Labs AR180 based rifle SVR2 Siberian approved for Non restricted FRT

Iamjocanadian said:
Haven't been able to find this info yet. Are the trigger and safety AR compatible? Would love to canabalize these parts from my safe queen.
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From one of the promo videos at the shows, BCL ceo Rob said they were making the lower compatible with AR parts I believe because they had left over stock from the OIC prohibition.
 
DaveMachine said:
That's pretty respectable for an autoloader. Hopefully those groups aren't just one-offs.
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Its roughly in line with what BCL said, so that's a good sign. Apparently they went with a Wylde chamber for increased accuracy over a 5.56 NATO chamber, like the early WKs. I'm curious if early WKs would have similar accuracy, if there are any left, but the accuracy would probably lessened by comparison by the hyper gassing of the WK vs the SRV2, plus the SRV2 has a slimmer BCG for less reciprocating mass to skew things.
 
Ustauk said:
Its roughly in line with what BCL said, so that's a good sign. Apparently they went with a Wylde chamber for increased accuracy over a 5.56 NATO chamber, like the early WKs. I'm curious if early WKs would have similar accuracy, if there are any left, but the accuracy would probably lessened by comparison by the hyper gassing of the WK vs the SRV2, plus the SRV2 has a slimmer BCG for less reciprocating mass to skew things.
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Oh good, BCL caught up to 2016 when all the US barrel manufacturers started offering this lol
 
DaveMachine said:
That's pretty respectable for an autoloader. Hopefully those groups aren't just one-offs.
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I'd say that's more than respectable for a factory barrel on a piston run carbine and like you, hope it isn't a one-off. Everyone seems to expect/demand that a carbine shoot 1 moa which is kind of a comical expectation for a rifle with a factory barrel given that a rack grade M4/M16 has a max allowable accuracy of 4 moa and the ones they select as DMRs are 2moa, iirc. In my experience, a carbine that will shoot 2moa or less (if equipped with an appropriate optic like an MPVO or a "high powered" LPVO) is effective out to the limits of .223 (600ish yards).
 
Grips, safeties and triggers all are direct replacements without issues. There is a second spring and detent above the grip that holds the rear takedown pin in place.
 
rugbydave said:
I'd say that's more than respectable for a factory barrel on a piston run carbine and like you, hope it isn't a one-off. Everyone seems to expect/demand that a carbine shoot 1 moa which is kind of a comical expectation for a rifle with a factory barrel given that a rack grade M4/M16 has a max allowable accuracy of 4 moa and the ones they select as DMRs are 2moa, iirc. In my experience, a carbine that will shoot 2moa or less (if equipped with an appropriate optic like an MPVO or a "high powered" LPVO) is effective out to the limits of .223 (600ish yards).
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Those were my groups and that’s my post on Reddit.
The groups weren’t one offs, they were fairly consistent, between 1.3 to 2.9 MOA depending on the ammo.
I didn’t use any real high quality ammo yet either…
BCL was saying it’s a 1.2 MOA gun with match ammo. I’m quite confident I’ll see groups around or maybe slighter better then 1 MOA once I find the ammo this gun likes best, and I drop my good trigger in there.
 
TommyT45 said:
Those were my groups and that’s my post on Reddit.
The groups weren’t one offs, they were fairly consistent, between 1.3 to 2.9 MOA depending on the ammo.
I didn’t use any real high quality ammo yet either…
BCL was saying it’s a 1.2 MOA gun with match ammo. I’m quite confident I’ll see groups around or maybe slighter better then 1 MOA once I find the ammo this gun likes best, and I drop my good trigger in there.
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Nice, good to hear. Looking forward to hear how reliable it is and how it groups with match ammo. I've been looking forward to this rifle coming out.
 
BCL posted an Instagram story of their black version of the Siberian firing. I couldn't get a direct link for some reason, but took a shot of how the charging handle appears when drawn back; its cool it does not extend beyond the end of the 1913 to Zhukov adapter, so if you had your magazines lined up on the bench, you could do a mag swap by feel without braking cheek weld, since you won't smack your self when charging.
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I can confirm, the charging handle doesn’t extend past the end of the receiver when you load it.
If you’re doing a mag change, there is a last round bold hold open, and an ambi bolt release button right above the mag release. So you don’t need to use the charging handle on a mag change anyway…
 
It's a two peace design so it overlaps when pulled back. Handle itself is quite small and not very comfortable, would've been nice to have folding charging handle.
 
Is the trigger guard able to be swapped for other AR type guards? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but it looks like it should work.
 
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