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This fr. the monthly e- Newsletter of "GUNBROKERS" :
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Updating AR-15's Image

The National Shooting Sports Foundation is trying to rebuild the image of the AR-15 rifle and you can help. The NSSF has coined the term Modern Sporting Rifle to more accurately describe the AR-15 platform and is asking that shooters do the same. The NSSF asks you to be an informed gun owner and to use the following facts to correct misconceptions about these rifles.

If AR-15-style modern sporting rifles are banned, your favorite traditional-looking hunting or target shooting semi-automatic firearm could be banned, too.

´ AR-15-platform rifles are among the most popular firearms being sold. They are today's modern sporting rifle.

´ The AR in "AR-15" rifle stands for Armalite rifle, after the company that developed it in the 1950s. "AR" does NOT stand for "assault rifle" or "automatic rifle."

´ AR-15-style rifles are NOT "assault weapons" or "assault rifles." An assault rifle is fully automatic -- a machine gun. Automatic firearms have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934.

´ AR-15-style rifles look like military rifles, such as the M-16, but function like other semi-automatic civilian sporting firearms, firing only one round with each pull of the trigger.

´ Versions of modern sporting rifles are legal to own in all 50 states, provided the purchaser passes the mandatory FBI background check required for all retail firearm purchasers.

´ Since the 19th century, civilian sporting rifles have evolved from their military predecessors. The modern sporting rifle simply follows that tradition.

´ AR-15-style rifles are no more powerful than other hunting rifles of the same caliber and in most cases are chambered in calibers less powerful than common big-game hunting cartridges like the 30-06 Springfield and .300 Win. Mag.

´ And, they are a lot of fun to shoot!
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MSR-15 anyone ?? :puke:
 
Good post, its true we have to make people realize that looks mean nothing, because realistically an AR is just as dangerous as someone's non restricted garand and the garand is more powerful. I like the term modern sporting rifle as well it seems fitting.
 
Or "the misser" for short.

Joking aside I think it's a good idea... would love to see the AR15 one day non-restricted.
 
I very much disagree, as long as firearms are portrayed as "sport" or "hobby" items we risk loosing them. They will not withstand the "if it saves one life" type campaigns from the antis if they are only owned for recreational purposes.

The primary purpose of a firearm is as a weapon, for self defence. Look to the sucess of the CCW's in the US, and the "stand your ground laws" and "castle doctrine" that fall from it. This is an argument the antis can't get around, and the sooner we socialize the Canadian public to this idea the better.

Just my $0.02
 
Mike_R23A said:
I very much disagree, as long as firearms are portrayed as "sport" or "hobby" items we risk loosing them. They will not withstand the "if it saves one life" type campaigns from the antis if they are only owned for recreational purposes.

The primary purpose of a firearm is as a weapon, for self defence. Look to the sucess of the CCW's in the US, and the "stand your ground laws" and "castle doctrine" that fall from it. This is an argument the antis can't get around, and the sooner we socialize the Canadian public to this idea the better.

Just my $0.02
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I absolutely, wholeheartedly, agree with your statements.
 
Mike_R23A said:
I very much disagree, as long as firearms are portrayed as "sport" or "hobby" items we risk loosing them. They will not withstand the "if it saves one life" type campaigns from the antis if they are only owned for recreational purposes.

The primary purpose of a firearm is as a weapon, for self defence. Look to the sucess of the CCW's in the US, and the "stand your ground laws" and "castle doctrine" that fall from it. This is an argument the antis can't get around, and the sooner we socialize the Canadian public to this idea the better.

Just my $0.02
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I agree as well, for the most part it's working for the Americans, obviously its still an on going battle, but it is working... I think people may be more receptive to the self defense logic, rather then sport shooting... Americans are lucky to have CCW, I wish, I'd be all over that...
 
Hey, I agree too... but...

How do we get CCW laws when sporting rifles are not seen as sporting rifles? Calling them weapons and assault rifles is probably not the best way for Canada (but what do I know).

It's either Baby steps or one massive leap to CCW and de-restricting everything, and unless some knife wielding maniacs go on rampages, then get put down by target shooters on their way to the shooting range all over the country (to sway public opinion) I'm thinking the baby steps route is best.
 
G37 said:
Hey, I agree too... but...

How do we get CCW laws when sporting rifles are not seen as sporting rifles? Calling them weapons and assault rifles is probably not the best way for Canada (but what do I know).

It's either Baby steps or one massive leap to CCW and de-restricting everything, and unless some knife wielding maniacs go on rampages, then get put down by target shooters on their way to the shooting range all over the country (to sway public opinion) I'm thinking the baby steps route is best.
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Maby the even bigger question is how do we get a bunch of knife wielding manics to go on a rampage Canada wide...
 
baby steps, get the ball rolling, then push for de-classification as restricted. Win the anti's minds first... And that not doing anything wrong, they are just filled with wrong propaganda...
 
G37 said:
Hey, I agree too... but...

How do we get CCW laws when sporting rifles are not seen as sporting rifles? Calling them weapons and assault rifles is probably not the best way for Canada (but what do I know).

It's either Baby steps or one massive leap to CCW and de-restricting everything, and unless some knife wielding maniacs go on rampages, then get put down by target shooters on their way to the shooting range all over the country (to sway public opinion) I'm thinking the baby steps route is best.
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Agreed, not saying it will be easy or happen overnight. Two things:

-I think trying to pass off military-style firearms as sporting arms will backfire, joe public will call BS on us saying an AR15 is a sporting rifle, even if we know there's no real functional differnce between .223 semi autos except the look... it may leave a bad taste in their mouth and make them less likely to believe other arguments we present.

-we already DO have CCW in Canada through the ATC type 3, we need to press this fact home and make the public ask why the goverment only allows the privledged elite the right to self defence!
 
My thought - if people are allowed to practice fighting with Katana and sword, we should be able to practice the art of fighting of the 21th century.

Tactical Carbine!

Hey, if people can practice karate, stick fighting ....etc at the gym, why can't we practice gun fighting??

Cannot wait to see "gunfighting" , along side with yoga, kickboxing and Pilate at the gym.
 
greentips said:
My thought - if people are allowed to practice fighting with Katana and sword, we should be able to practice the art of fighting of the 21th century.

Tactical Carbine!

Hey, if people can practice karate, stick fighting ....etc at the gym, why can't we practice gun fighting??

Cannot wait to see "gunfighting" , along side with yoga, kickboxing and Pilate at the gym.
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I like your vision on this :)
 
I'm planning to move stateside.

As far as it works out in practice, Canadians do not have a right to life... we do not have the right to defend ourselves. I think that is an aberration and a direct violation of my human rights.
 
It's not an assault rifle (you're not invading the range), it's not a weapon (unless you're defending yourself or robbing a liquor store), and what the hell is a modern sporting firearm? FFS, it a semi-automatic or autoloading rifle. Period.

You could call it a FooFooBunnyRainbowHappyJoyPeaceFlower and the anti's will still hate it because it looks like something used by cops/military and that just grates on their hippy liberal consciousness.
 
greentips said:
My thought - if people are allowed to practice fighting with Katana and sword, we should be able to practice the art of fighting of the 21th century.

Tactical Carbine!

Hey, if people can practice karate, stick fighting ....etc at the gym, why can't we practice gun fighting??

Cannot wait to see "gunfighting" , along side with yoga, kickboxing and Pilate at the gym.
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You are wise... The force is strong with this one...
 
greentips said:
Hey, if people can practice karate, stick fighting ....etc at the gym, why can't we practice gun fighting??
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If you go through a martial arts catalogue, you'll find many items listed as not available in Canada. E.g., proper nunchucks.

Silly, but that's why marital arts schools talk about fitness instead of breaking necks.
 
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