Black Powder :D

[death-junky]

hey all me and my uncle are thinking about getting in to this sport (thanks Nessy ) what i am wondering is what is a good reliable rifle that wont brake the bank. I kinda like the F/L idea but they seem to cost alot of money.
ttyal
Riley

 

[fogducker]

first i have to ask when you say thank you nessy?? do you mean nessy 357? if it is him i know what you mean...as he was kind enough to send me at his cost a manual on m/lers...if not for him i dont think i would be involved in the sport...psssst did he send you the pics?...lol
i think the pic,s got me hooked on the fun of m/lers..
but i,ll let you know. once you fire one... you will be hooked

 

[Claven2]

IMHO, the best starter rifle that combines decent quality at a fair price is any of the Lyman rifles, followed by Pedersoli made guns. Armi-Sport is good too if you go percussion, their flinters require a little work to shoot right (ie, flint knapping, minor tuning).

I'd go Lyman though if I were you. Great buy. Look at the Great Plains model or the Trade rifle.

 

[JerkinHerb]

I agree with Claven,
Lyman makes a very good starter rifle in the muzzleloading area.However,It's my opinion that Jim Chambers kits are one step better.It does take an area of skill in the construction of these pre-built kits.None of Chambers come pre-assembled.

 

[neos]

Hi there and hope you get addicted. If you want a flinter, a Lyman Great Plains would surley be the ticket. I was short a little on funds when I purchased, so I got a Traditions Deerhunter f/l. Not by far the best quality and finish, but it does work really well. It is fun. And if you want something more modern a NEF Huntsman would be a great starter. I haven't personally shot lots out of my flinter, but am now noticing the real costs bekind the scenes. Black powder around here is harder to find, and flints can add up quickly while practicing, as are the extra gadgets for this fun sport. You will need some accessories whichever way you go. Don't get me wrong, I do love it, but am really glad I started with something more modern to learn the basics on. Now all that I shoot makes clouds of smoke, or I don't shoot. I could easily see myself giving up on the f/l , self teaching, without other muzzleloading shooting experience and forums like this. Good luck and happy shooting to you whichever way you go.

 

[snowshoe]

I would also go with the Lyman, but would start with a cap lock, not a flinter. The flinter can be quite trying at first, the cap lock is far more forgiving. I have one of each and like them very much, but if I would have started with the flinter, I might not have stuck with it.

 

[mooncoon]

Rather than naming a specific rifle, I would suggest joining up with the local black powder club, see what they are shooting and ask to try the different types. The only one that I would specifically avoid are spanish guns with a drum for the nipple; they are prone to fouling in my experience.
There are often second hand guns available for less than 1/2 the new cost and they will get you shooting while you are forming a more informed opinion of what you like and don't like in the different makes and models of muzzle loaders. Remember however that you only get what you pay for.
Final advice is that while most any percussion lock will function reasonably well, cheap flint locks (ie lock only) are an excercise in frustration. Buy a good one or replace it with a good one; Siler and L&R have excellent reputations.

cheers mooncoon

 

[NB.nagantsniper]

i agree but would say to start an try a cva brand gun..........

Rather than naming a specific rifle, I would suggest joining up with the local black powder club, see what they are shooting and ask to try the different types. The only one that I would specifically avoid are spanish guns with a drum for the nipple; they are prone to fouling in my experience.
There are often second hand guns available for less than 1/2 the new cost and they will get you shooting while you are forming a more informed opinion of what you like and don't like in the different makes and models of muzzle loaders. Remember however that you only get what you pay for.
Final advice is that while most any percussion lock will function reasonably well, cheap flint locks (ie lock only) are an excercise in frustration. Buy a good one or replace it with a good one; Siler and L&R have excellent reputations.

cheers mooncoon

 

[death-junky]

first i have to ask when you say thank you nessy?? do you mean nessy 357? if it is him i know what you mean...as he was kind enough to send me at his cost a manual on m/lers...if not for him i dont think i would be involved in the sport...psssst did he send you the pics?...lol
i think the pic,s got me hooked on the fun of m/lers..
but i,ll let you know. once you fire one... you will be hooked

yup it was nessy357 he let me try out his flint lock at the last drop in shoot and I loved it .
so ya i got to get something like that
from what i heard you have to shoot BP if you wont to join the BP club in Port Alberni
ttyal
Riley