Black Rifle #### ORA Service CQB Base Borden 2010

[Petrock]

Gotta love the American normal cap magazines. If I get back to Borden next summer for course I may just have to get involved in this ORA stuff. Anybody willing to lend either a rifle or storage for a couple of mine?

 

[FPembleton]

Look one more time,

not the first 3 shots, but the second 3 shots.

Switch to 720p and watch it again yourself. He's pulling each shot.

 

[Danimal247]

I dont see anyone shooting 3 shots at 1:02 in the ORA video?

 

[Hungry]

Petrock: Regarding the storage... I'm here for ya. Done this for other CF Pers.

Cheers,
Barney

 

[Charles Martel]

If ammo price comes to 330 dollars a case I will train more!

Why not come over to the red side and use a VZ?

 

[FPembleton]

Why not come over to the red side and use a VZ?

Because we want to be able to hit targets beyond 300m?

 

[dudley2112]

Because we want to be able to hit targets beyond 300m?

haha, maybe you should clarify that a little... hit targets at 300m without 3ft of hold over

 

[Gunslinger]

Because we want to be able to hit targets beyond 300m?

I'd wager most shooters on CGN fondle their AR's more than they shoot them and couldn't make hits at 300m no matter what they were shooting. The theoretical advantages of the AR doesn't amount to much in the average shooters hands. The VZ in practiced hands can readily keep up with the AR out to 300 in practical terms. No disadvantage there.

 

[Charles Martel]

Because we want to be able to hit targets beyond 300m?

care to bet a steak on that?

 

[Petrock]

Petrock: Regarding the storage... I'm here for ya. Done this for other CF Pers.

Cheers,
Barney

Thanks Barney I'll let you know the start date of my course lol. We're looking at an early March start.

J

 

[cptseawolf]

Look one more time,

not the first 3 shots, but the second 3 shots.

He pulls trigger once and 1 shell ejects. What you are HEARING are 3 shots, probably because 3 shooters reacted to the whistle. WATCH...dont listen...lol

 

[sillymike]

Because we want to be able to hit targets beyond 300m?

I think for CQB... you don't need to hold over all that much
(Even with the VZ)

 

[OneTime]

I think you should shoot whatever you feel like shooting for CQB. However, recoil management becomes another issue for follow up shots in CQB with the 7.62

 

[pobcat]

If you do plan to use the VZ/CZ for CQB I would highly suggest a extended mag release, muzzle break and only doing tactical reloads (never letting your bolt lock back) or you can avoid that by buying a bolt release. Either way the VZ/CZ has disadvantages for CQB....but with a proper strategy you can keep up....and dare I say....out shoot people with AR-15's

 

[OneTime]

If you do plan to use the VZ/CZ for CQB I would highly suggest a extended mag release, muzzle break and only doing tactical reloads (never letting your bolt lock back) or you can avoid that by buying a bolt release. Either way the VZ/CZ has disadvantages for CQB....but with a proper strategy you can keep up....and dare I say....out shoot people with AR-15's

Dare I dare you that now you have won a championship with an ar-15 that you try it with an CZ/VZ or one of those new czech arms carbines or compacts?

 

[aspect]

Looks like a ton of fun - someone is either brave or crazy allowing their vehicle to be used on range (no honey, those aren't powder burns on the paint).

I shoot off my car all the time, but yeah...donno if I'd want a bunch of other guys doing it too, haha. Worst thing that's happened is a .45 casing getting lodged at the base of one of the windshield wipers. Didn't notice till a week or two later when it was making this weird noise

 

[OneTime]

Haha. I'm glad everyone is enjoying this short little video. Once more footage is acquired a longer video will follow.

 

[Xathane]

What about that MFS ammo, it's like 369 a case no?

If ammo price comes to 330 dollars a case I will train more!