Blacktails .... it's that time of year again

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I've been out a few times for 4pt mulies and scouting areas I haven't hunted locally much but have not gotten close to anything legal except for a really small whitetail spike buck that I passed on. No bears or sign of bears anywhere I have been which is kinda odd. Lots of rosehips this year and the saskatoon berries this year were prolific, though a bit early to ripen this year. Last bear I saw was in early august.

anyhow, my excitement always builds as october approaches and my favorite time slot to be in the coastal mountains of region 2 looking to fill my Blacktail tags.
MD who used to frequent here but seems is locked out after the reset..... headed up to the spot I showed him a few years ago on the 30th. He started hunting the next morning and filled his tag after a very short sit in the stand. He was headed home to Vancouver the same day so was a real short and sweet hunt for him LOL
I am itchin to go but have been plagued by stupid gremlins in my jeep which I figure is the O2 sensor after doing a bunch of things it could have also been .... the way it goes and I have no time. So while I should have left the same day as MD..... I am leaving in the morning. My brother has a doe tag and has yet to harvest a deer from the area we will be in so he is meeting me up there with my nephew.

Hopefully I will be back with some great pics and a story to tell ;)
Good luck everyone wherever you may be hunting!!
 
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Sounds awesome! I was supposed to go blacktail hunting in WA in a couple weeks but injury and surgery made me postpone the trip to next year. Obviously no blacktail here in SK so I’m looking forward to seeing pics of your hunt!
 
what ? No one hunts blacktails anymore around here?
was hoping to return to a bunch of hunters posting pics of thier blacktail harvests.
I got in at 1 am last night , had the deer hanging and ready for bed by 2am.... I am still whiped out.
Gotta move pics from my camera to the laptop and will report back on another successful few days in the stand.
A highlight of the trip was on the way out I stopped beside a field after seeing an impossibly huge bear a few hundred yards out. I didn't range it but it was close enough that I didn't want to linger too long out in the open. It was probably one of the biggest Grizzly bears I have ever laid eyes on in the field. A big sow munching down the farmer's cover crop. I spoke with him briefly as he was also there watching the bear with some concern being that residential and farm properties are such a short distance and she had to go through them when she came off the mountain to the west. Another hunter I had spoken with 4 days earlier had mentioned seeing a Grizzly down by the bridge on the way in, feeding in the same field. Wish I had a way better camera to take some pics with but mine was not up for the task at that distance.

anyhow.....I'll be back with some tales of my adventure and some pics ;)
 
Arrived at camp on the afternoon of the 4rth to find my brother and nephew set up and waiting for me.
Was awesome to see that MD left a nice stack of firewood and some spare rope which both came in very handy on this trip.
My weapon of choice for this trip was my shorty enfield but once i got it in the bush the crosshairs just disappear on dark surfaces..... no good. I regret buying the Bushnell Engage series of scopes..... it will get repurposed to a range only scope. Was cheap so whatever.
So my trusty Ruger M77 MKII 7mm rem mag stepped up for the task. My brother brought along his 45-70 lever gun with an aimpoint. That is one slick rig. My family is fairly private and I've been asked not to share some of the pics from the trip with faces other than mine.
So day 1 , the 4rth ended after a brief trip up the mountain to get the treestand ladder set up.
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Oct 5 I was up at 6am and headed into the stand while my brother and nephew hung back. He's a shift worker and needed a couple days to adjust LOL So in I went, into the fog and old growth timber set on moss covered bedrock. There were all kinds of mushrooms and the whole forest smelled of musty earth and mushrooms. The leaves are about midpoint in turning this year...... seems later than usual and "a lot" more leaves on foilage than the same time other years. Temps got up to +9 and the day was moslty cloudy with a bit of sun here and there. So I woke at 6am , made coffee and grabbed some snacks and a boost drink, loaded up the rifle and hit the trail in the dark. I was in the stand just as legal shooting light arrived. The fog moved in and out of the draw as the morning progressed. I could see thru the trees down hill that the valley below was hidden in thick fog. A little after an hour the first movement caught my eye to my far right and I could make out the ears of several deer approaching at a purposeful pace. I chose my moment to swing the rifle to sight in on the incoming deer but as I watched them appear one by one in a single file line, the first group were all does and fawns. This repeated untill a little after 10:30 as a total of 16 deer moved thru the shooting lanes and down the mountain. No bucks today.

Oct 6 was pretty much a repeat and 13 does and fawns came thru the draw. Weather sucked with mostly rain off and on, temps stayed the same.
Oct 7th was a wet morning and my brother and I both headed up the mountain after a 6am wake up and quick prehunting prep. I set him up in a spot lower and directly behind the stand 100 yards or so. We verified shooting lanes to stay safe and I headed up to my perch in the stand.
Looking at the high ground above me directly out from the stand
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just to the right of the first pic
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downhill to the left
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and the right side shooting lane where a lot of the deer were coming from on this trip
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at around 8:30 ish and after seeing 8 or 9 does/fawns come thru, a doe came straight at the stand from the right hand shooting lane and then took the high ground on the right in the above pic as it approached to 20 yards thru the bushes. Then the buck popped into view in the foggy spot right beside the big fir tree trunk and I quietly and slowly got my rifle and body into position. He was walking fast catching up to the doe when I let out a doe bleat to stop him in his tracks. Sounds just like a sheep or goat sound. He stopped at less than 20 yards , near broadside and looked right at me and the rifle barked, sending that 160gr nosler partition on it's way. One shot did the trick and he made it maybe 10 yards.

After cutting my tag and dragging the deer whole down 50 yards from where I shot him..... i called my brother up from his ground hide and got him into the stand while I sat back below and behind the stand to watch the show. Within an hour I saw his shoulder move which was immediately followed by the report of that beautiful stainless 45-70..... My brother took his first BC coastal mountain Blacktail and I feel very blessed that I could experience that with him. He had an elusive doe draw for the region and her size was fairly representative of the typical doe.
Here are the deer we harvested on the 7th
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Oct 8th some other hunters had arrived the evening before and were walking all over the area in the bush being stupid hunters (for the area) and messing up the mountainside for any volume of deer movement. I;ve bumped into this family of clowns before and they purposefully set thier camp up where they know the deer will not move past them. I saw one doe that morning from first light till noon. figures

Oct 9th saw 7 deer , all does and fawns except for one spike buck. He was not as big of body as the one I already took and his spikes were only 3 or 4 inches long. I had a brief window to take him as he came in from the right side and turned to go down behind me..... pretty much the exact path the buck I already harvested took. I let him go. If I didn;t have a bull moose draw coming up in 10 days..... I would have taken him for the meat. I don't hunt for antlers and I only eat game meat so letting him walk was a decision but I made it fast.
At around 11 am , movement below to my left in my peripheral grabbed my attention and I was stunned to see a mature and very uniquely colored wolf heaing up the hill at a hunting pace. I should have let out a bleat to stop him but I took a moving shot and missed at 50 to 60 feet max..... I tried for a second shot by leading him but as wolves do..... his course change just as I pulled the trigger was another miss..... and he was gone. That really burned me LOL...... I will do better next time... if I am ever presented with that golden opportunity again.

Unfortunatley the weather really hammered us this trip and dry clothes became hard to come by after wednesday morning's hunt so we called it
We didn't see any deer that morning anyways as the 3 moron hunters above us had already spread thier scent far and wide along the ridge like complete newbies. They aren't though, I have seen this family up there over the 20+ years I have hunted this spot and changed my hunting dates to avoid them. Not this year apparently.
But not to cast shade on an awesome trip. My brother punched his tag and is really happy and my nephew got to cruise around on a fancy atv to his hearts content.
All in all, great memories were made and a successful trip for us both ;)
 
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Can i come Black Tail hunting ?
I am not sure how that would work. I know I can apply for permits to accompany for Canadian residents but not sure if BC allows foreign hunters without using a guide outfitter.
That said, I would absolutely bring you along Blacktail hunting if there is a way to get you some tags.
 
What’s your rifle and caliber? Looks like wood and blue…
I intended to hunt with my custom shorty lee enfield no1 mkIII lithgow but as I mentioned earlier..... the bushnell engage 2-7x32 I dressed it with is useless for hunting LOL The crosshairs are so fine they just disappear against a dark background. A real problem in the woods I am hunting LOL
So I broke out the Ruger M77 MkII in 7mm rem mag which is really my go to rifle for hunting in BC.
Some say it is too much gun for a Blacktail but it's not too much gun for those mountains. I have hunted that draw on the mountain for over 20 years now and the only major predator I have not come in close quarters with up there is the Grizzly. Lots of blackbears, the occasional cougar and wolves. It's why I didn't even bat an eye when my brother chose to hunt this trip with his 45-70 hehe.

The treestand was actually purchased in 2016. It was an impulse buy while I was strolling thru the Canadian Tire sporting goods section after hunting season, looking for christmas gifts. Marked at 70% off for a 2 man ladder stand..... how could I refuse. Best 120 bucks I've spent on hunting gear LOL It was intended for a location in region 3-30 but that summer the elephant hill fire ravaged that area severely so those plans changed.
Around the same time, I reported it here on cgn, a friend and I were hunting the blacktail spot one evening and were interupted by a large pack of wolves. They appeared on the high ground to the left in the picture above that shows part of my rifle. That is 50 yards and under. Much gunfire followed LOL. The next season we encountered some rather large blackbears , with one appearing 10 feet from me from below and when I retreated to where my buddy was set up, there were suddenly 2 vary large blackbears and they were following me.
The next year I put in the treestand ..... why tempt fate in that terrain? You will never outrun a predator in that environment and if I don't "have" to shoot them I would rather not..... except for wolves of course. So the treestand has been an excellent addition to that hunting spot and most critters that pass by are completely unaware of me in my perch.
 
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Man that looks wet! lol Congrats on the successful harvest though!

I'm surprised to hear that October is blacktail season to you, most people I know are heading AWAY from Region 2 for the any buck seasons available in the rest of the province for the month of Oct - I was in Region 5 for the start of October myself. Put down a deer and a bear, so the freezer is looking pretty damn full but that won't stop me from chasing blacktails closer to home for the rest of the season, maybe go after whitetails come Remembrance Day weekend...


Grouse numbers were really bad in the two areas I've hunted this year (regions 3 and 5). Were grouse numbers down in region 2 where you were as well?
 
I am not sure how that would work. I know I can apply for permits to accompany for Canadian residents but not sure if BC allows foreign hunters without using a guide outfitter.
That said, I would absolutely bring you along Blacktail hunting if there is a way to get you some tags.
You're a good man .
Wishful thinking but one day I'll get busy looking up the Regs an see where I can slip in ha ha.

The landscape alone... Magic
 
I think you're out of luck:

Who can be accompanied​

The applicant may apply for only one permit per season to take up to two people hunting, that meet definitions of a non-resident or a non-resident alien.

A non-resident – a person who is not a resident of British Columbia but who:

  • Is a Canadian Citizen, a permanent resident of Canada; or,
  • Has their sole or permanent residence in Canada and has resided in Canada for the 12 months immediately before the date of the application
A non-resident alien (a person who is neither a resident nor a non-resident) whose relationship to the applicant is one of the following:

  • Parent
  • Parent's sibling
  • Spouse
  • Spouse's sibling
  • Spouse's parent
  • Sibling
  • Sibling's child
  • Sibling's spouse
  • Child
  • Child's spouse
  • Grandchild
  • Grandparent
  • Cousin is not an accepted relationship
The person(s) being accompanied must also not have a conviction specified under section 84 (1) (a) of the Wildlife Act, within the 5-year period immediately preceding the application for a permit, or specified under section 84 (1) (b) of the Wildlife Act or the Firearm Act within the 3 year period immediately preceding the application for a permit.
 
I think you're out of luck:

Who can be accompanied​

The applicant may apply for only one permit per season to take up to two people hunting, that meet definitions of a non-resident or a non-resident alien.

A non-resident – a person who is not a resident of British Columbia but who:

  • Is a Canadian Citizen, a permanent resident of Canada; or,
  • Has their sole or permanent residence in Canada and has resided in Canada for the 12 months immediately before the date of the application
A non-resident alien (a person who is neither a resident nor a non-resident) whose relationship to the applicant is one of the following:

  • Parent
  • Parent's sibling
  • Spouse
  • Spouse's sibling
  • Spouse's parent
  • Sibling
  • Sibling's child
  • Sibling's spouse
  • Child
  • Child's spouse
  • Grandchild
  • Grandparent
  • Cousin is not an accepted relationship
The person(s) being accompanied must also not have a conviction specified under section 84 (1) (a) of the Wildlife Act, within the 5-year period immediately preceding the application for a permit, or specified under section 84 (1) (b) of the Wildlife Act or the Firearm Act within the 3 year period immediately preceding the application for a permit.
ya I actually went thru the process this year for a friend from Ontario who lived here for a bunch of years and had his BC hunting license. All he had to do was update his hunter information and change his status to non resident because he was already moved back there before the WILD system was in place. Plans fell through for this year but he will be joining me next year if his permit is approved.

WhelanLad , other great opportunities for coastal mountain blacktail exist in similar conditions in Washington State and Oregon. Not sure how thier foreign hunter programs work but I have been invited a couple times by some blacktail enthusiasts in Oregon. A trip I would like to do some day before I'm too old to be in the mountains. This terrain in my spot is difficult for me due to my physical disability but it's the one hunt I will not miss even if it's real painful getting in and out of there. It never gets old for me.
 
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When's the season close ? I'm leavin Halifax in the morning...figure 5 days I;ll be there...lmao !
Great read this evening. Thanks for sharing and a big congrats to you and your broski !
 
I wonder if we could get permission from the first nations council on Haida Gwaii for you to hunt there. It's a long shot but I do have contacts I can email the question to. Those are Sitka Blacktail and really fun to hunt. The hunting grounds are thick coastal rainforest at sea level and the beach we camp on has crabs and scallops for the picking at low tide and fishing for trout and maybe a salmon in the river mouth nearby. Sitka Blacktail are the smallest of the Mule Deer family , some about 1/2 the size of the average Coastal Blacktail.
Where I was just hunting is mountainous and due to the location there is some interbreeding between Coastal Blacktail and thier larger Mule Deer cousins. These deer I'm hunting do not go thru thier rut phase in the mountains I am hunting them in. They are actually migrating out of those regions by the thousands over a 3 week to month long period before the snows come. They travel many kilometers south to thier respective breeding grounds as they fan out into the less snowy covered valleys and mountain sides. As they are doing this, a similar migration is taking place in the next region over, divided by high and steep mountain peaks and some valleys that allow the deer to cross over and mingle in the same areas when the rut phase begins. This results in what we call a Blacktail Hybrid and they tend to have larger body mass, heavier fat layers, thicker antler growth and slightly different or more pronounced white pattern to thier body color in the face, throat and chest.
The big one i got last year has really thick antler and it's body mass was one of the larger deer I have taken from there, easily over 200 pounds on the hoof.
This one here was one of my favorites in memory from this spot back when I still hunted it from the ground using natural cover. I really should have gotten a full cape mount done but I did keep the skull and have it as a Euro mount. I just found the colors on this deer to be really unique for the area and a prime example of a Blacktail/Mulie Hybrid. He weighed 185 dressed, head on, hide off so was well over 200lbs on the hoof.
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I'd say an average mature Coastal Blacktail is around 160 lbs..... maybe 180 on the high side but 160 is probably a good average.
anyhow I can ramble on about this topic for days so I'll take a break now LOL
I'm binge watching Oregon blacktail videos on youtube this morning :ROFLMAO:
 
Just heard from my other friend who I shared my Blacktail area with. He grabbed the treestand gear from my brother's place on friday and headed up to the mountains with his oldest son. They managed to tag out a nice buck and got home last night.

It's thank a Turkey day in Canuckistan...... wife is out of town working...... I'm gonna skip the festivities and go for an afternoon deer hunt instead LOL
 
I hunt Blacktails pretty hard, I got a good 3 point sept 11th and then went into the alpine in the Fraser valley looking for another one and ended up getting a decent black bear, I hunt Mulies and whitetails but Blacktails are my passion, if your brother had the coveted doe draw I have not hunted up that way before I stick around chilliwack and Harrison

Good on you for getting it done and also doing it consistently, it takes a lot of time, knowledge and patience’s to do that with Blacktails ,

Can’t wait for the first 2 weeks of November it’s my favourite time to get high up and still hunt and call for them, really gets my blood going,

Good luck with the rest of your season
 
years ago I hunted them in the mountains on the north and back side of Chilliwack Lake.
Not sure if the road alongside the lake is still active or not but about 1/2 way down the lake there is a series of old logging roads that go up into that valleys. We never saw another hunter back in there but the deer hunting late october thru november just below the alpine was pretty good for us back then. That the late 90's but i imagine there must be lots of deer up there that are seldom disturbed. If my body was up to it I would hunt up in there again but it is tough hiking
 
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