Blaser R8

[bearkilr]

Bearkilr,
Even though each country in Europe has different limit on the firearms one can own, the point that he was trying to make is still clear and correct that due to the limits on the firearms, selling a modular rifle which can have multiple calibers with one frame (stock and receiver) is a good marketing idea in Europe.
Don't pretend that you're not bullying an honest cgner.

Many European countries have no limits. And this isn't elementary school, so I don't get the "bullying" remark It's a a simple discussion but apparently some people get offended when someone disagrees with them.

Blaser's popularity isn't because of firearms laws. If you read jjohnwm's post, he describes its attributes very well.

 

[elker]

Many European countries have no limits. And this isn't elementary school, so I don't get the "bullying" remark It's a a simple discussion but apparently some people get offended when someone disagrees with them.

Blaser's popularity isn't because of firearms laws. If you read jjohnwm's post, he describes its attributes very well.

The market for those European countries that have firearm limits certainly is big enough for Blaser or another firearm manufacture to consider the idea of modular firearms. By calling a fine person like medvedqc "spreading misinformation" when he was trying to to bring out certain fact is really unfair and personal.
I am not against Blaser. My next purchase has been planned to be a good quality European made rifle. If this thread can serve to help understanding the safety of the Blaser R8, it is worth it.
BTW, jjohnwm's argument has flaws. Buying a firearm is not like having to take plane. We cannot attend the conference in Paris in time without taking a plane (we have no choice), but we can choose a proven safe firearm that does not shoot its bolt back to the face (we have choices).

 

[bearkilr]

The market for those European countries that have firearm limits certainly is big enough for Blaser or another firearm manufacture to consider the idea of modular firearms. By calling a fine person like medvedqc "spreading misinformation" when he was trying to to bring out certain fact is really unfair and personal.
I am not against Blaser. My next purchase has been planned to be a good quality European made rifle. If this thread can serve to help understanding the safety of the Blaser R8, it is worth it.
BTW, jjohnwm's argument has flaws. Buying a firearm is not like having to take plane. We cannot attend the conference in Paris in time without taking a plane (we have no choice), but we can choose a proven safe firearm that does not shoot its bolt back to the face (we have choices).

The misinformation is the statement that Germans are restricted to 6 long guns.
As for safety, there have been 8 cases and none can be solely blamed on the firearm's design. I really don't think there is another firearm with the same sales numbers that can boast the same statistic. Given it's unconventional locking mechanism, blame is automatically placed on the design rather than user error, be it a stuck projectile in the barrel or erroneously using pistol powder in reloads, as was the case with two incidents.
I personally know several Swedish hunters that put hundreds of rounds per indoor shooting range session through their Blasers. Video screen hunting with live ammo is very popular there.

 

[jjohnwm]

BTW, jjohnwm's argument has flaws. Buying a firearm is not like having to take plane. We cannot attend the conference in Paris in time without taking a plane (we have no choice), but we can choose a proven safe firearm that does not shoot its bolt back to the face (we have choices).

Well, the analogy is more accurate than you suggest; buying a gun is done by choice; you don't need to buy this gun or any other. You also don't need to ever fly; numerous people, through fear or simply a lack of motivation, go through their entire lives without every leaving terra firma. That Paris conference that requires your urgent attendance can be reached by other means, if you choose to go at all. The point at which a want becomes a need is entirely arbitrary.

In any case, that wasn't my argument at all, but thanks for letting me know that we are arguing. By all means, you should choose a "proven safe" firearm when you purchase. It appears that, to you, this means one that has a spotless safety record with no issues or mishaps, ever. Good luck with that! Perhaps a KelTec SU16 would serve? They seem to auto-disassemble with startling regularity, but I've never heard of anyone actually being hurt by one; is that what you meant?

 

[Onlysauer]

There are Blasers that cost as much as a truck (and trailer)load of Remingtons. People who can afford that kind of guns (billionaires)in case of an accident can sue and ruin Blaser. There wasn’t any accident with an R8. Luckily we live in a world with many options. You don’t like them, don’t buy them. What bothers me is people who never touched let alone owned one are the most opinionated...happy shooting!

 

[elker]

There are Blasers that cost as much as a truck (and trailer)load of Remingtons. People who can afford that kind of guns (billionaires)in case of an accident can sue and ruin Blaser. There wasn’t any accident with an R8. Luckily we live in a world with many options. You don’t like them, don’t buy them. What bothers me is people who never touched let alone owned one are the most opinionated...happy shooting!

Every sentence in your post is in a tone of over exaggeration- "as truck load of Remington", "billionaires", "sue and ruin Blaser".
For every prudent buyer, which you are not, it is a nutural process to first do the research, listen to and challenge other's opinion, then arrive at the educated conclusion.
If one forego this process, he may Cut the happy shooting short with a bolt stuck in the face.

 

[Onlysauer]

Do you have one? If not you opinion is not an educared one...is purely based on internet that also should be taken with a grain of salt. What I learned when I was just a kid is that the fox said the grapes are sour when couldn’t reach them...
And for you info there are Blaser worth over 100.000 euros, i will let you do the math how many Rmmys are in that pile. And check their site on the custom guns there is one double barrel R8 built for a sheik,I am pretty sure he is billionaire

 

[bearkilr]

Every sentence in your post is in a tone of over exaggeration- "as truck load of Remington", "billionaires", "sue and ruin Blaser".
For every prudent buyer, which you are not, it is a nutural process to first do the research, listen to and challenge other's opinion, then arrive at the educated conclusion.
If one forego this process, he may Cut the happy shooting short with a bolt stuck in the face.

If you're seriously interested, you really should try one first hand. For instance, the trigger is simply awesome, and I've tried many top ones, from Jard to Jewell to professionally tweaked ones. None have felt better than Blaser. When you completely disassemble a rifle, removing the barrel, scope and mount, etc. and then reassembling with a different caliber and there's no change in POI, that's something almost uncanny.
Don't get hung up on the safety thing, it's really a non issue. Every gun you fire is basically a self contained bomb.

 

[Onlysauer]

I've been researching switch barrel rifles and the concept appeals to me. I would like to replace my current 300 wm and 375 H&H with one rifle.

I initially looked at the Mauser M03 but it's a bit heavier than I'd like to carry. I'm looking for a rifle that's around 8-8.5 pounds scoped with a Leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 (I already own a few of these scopes). I've narrowed it down to the the Blaser R8 Professional or Professional Success (thumbhole stock model). I'm wondering if anyone on CGN has any experience with this rifle? Any negatives aside from the price?



Cheers,

Mik

If you’d like to see one in person I will gladly show you mine, I am also in Lower Mainland. And have other german guns you can look at

 

[elker]

Fair enough.
I happen to be in a position that I can afford one of these top brand guns, after so many years (decades) of destitute. I have quite a few low end or mediocre rifles. Considering that I have to put a $1000 scope on each of them, I should have just bought one or two of top end rifle and call it a day.
I am challenging your views, but also listening too. Will see if I take the plunge.

 

[Onlysauer]

Fair enough.
I happen to be in a position that I can afford one of these top brand guns, after so many years (decades) of destitute. I have quite a few low end or mediocre rifles. Considering that I have to put a $1000 scope on each of them, I should have just bought one or two of top end rifle and call it a day.
I am challenging your views, but also listening too. Will see if I take the plunge.

You will never be sorry. Last year I had a rare ocasion to visit Heym factory in Germany. I saw the best gunsmiths and craftsmen and engravers at work. I saw their dedication and passion. This is what you are paying for. In a world that everithing is made on CNC and has almost no human touch you get to appreciate the old world craftsmanship,a dyeing breed sadly. I have 2 R8s , two boring guns, any ammo I put through them shot into half inch, no bedding, action trueing,trigger replacement or bolt blueprinting, just sight it in and go hunting. Buy one, reward youself...

 

[track]

Fair enough.
I happen to be in a position that I can afford one of these top brand guns, after so many years (decades) of destitute. I have quite a few low end or mediocre rifles. Considering that I have to put a $1000 scope on each of them, I should have just bought one or two of top end rifle and call it a day.
I am challenging your views, but also listening too. Will see if I take the plunge.

Take the plunge and reward yourself. I don't have many rifles, however the ones I do possess are of great quality. I don't want or need many firearms, just great quality and reliable. The Blaser rifles are most unique and versatile.

 

[bearkilr]

Fair enough.
I happen to be in a position that I can afford one of these top brand guns, after so many years (decades) of destitute. I have quite a few low end or mediocre rifles. Considering that I have to put a $1000 scope on each of them, I should have just bought one or two of top end rifle and call it a day.
I am challenging your views, but also listening too. Will see if I take the plunge.

There's really no such thing as a mediocre gun. A $300 Savage will kill just as well as a $4000 Blaser. I suppose after years of trying many different firearms a person just gets really picky and opinionated. I hunted everything for many years with a Browning A bolt in 300 WM, a rifle seen by many as "mediocre". But I saved up a long time to buy it new and it was a great rifle that served me well. Then the internet and gun trading came around and the rest is history.

 

[propliner]

Budget guns are just plain mediocre. They're mediocre in terms of looks, materials, finish, construction, pride of ownership and uniqueness. The R8 doesn't suffer from mediocrity.

As far as an R8 having a weak action goes, I don't worry whether mine can handle another small mountain of primer-flattening .500 Jeffery loads in the order of 8000 ft/lbs or not, but I do worry about scratching it. We care about those we love.