bodyless deer, or headless bodies

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you guys get this stuff going on all the time like Australia?

one of the old deer species to be smarter than man and cause 'grown men' to behave like EFFEN Dung Beetles , immature dung beetles at that.

there was heap of crows down near the bitumen road, in the bush adjacent to the road, i will bet there is a deer carcass down there.

as i walked up the bush track, 500m in a vehicle had turned around, this is what i find right near the track in common hunting camping area.


pisses me right off

i share the bush down here with Idiots, losers and disrespectful Australians.

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Yes, that is really irritating. I see that occasionally here as well. Hunters are not doing themselves any favors by being slobs like that. Make a bit of an effort to find an appropriate spot to discard your waste. I think most guys are good but of course there is always a few that make us all look bad.
 
RobbieLaidlaw said:
What do you think happened exactly?
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this kind of thing Screams... That is was Illegally Spotlighted off the Road (out of someones property/Farm) an the Guys ran over an Cut the head off quickly, then depart the Scene.
they then drive back down the road a short distance normally into a bush track, then take the antlers from the "Mess" (skull) and either A-continue on -spotlighting. or head back to camp B- Or head back to the city/town....


its rampant at the moment, i actually thught it was slowing down a bit, in peak season it has but on either end it has a surge of activity as they try get the stags before antler drop... a previous long weekend brings in city folk and grubs
 
kc34 said:
Yes, that is really irritating. I see that occasionally here as well. Hunters are not doing themselves any favors by being slobs like that. Make a bit of an effort to find an appropriate spot to discard your waste. I think most guys are good but of course there is always a few that make us all look bad.
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Down here it is wild, in terms of no respect wild.

our culture is so backwards its not funny, so they try mainstream the hunting and how much money it gives the economoy, yet 79% of hunters i know or met are disrespectful bloody thirsty couldnt-care-a-hoot about the deer, the enviorment they are in or the people around them..... or the LAWs.

im starting to feel ashamed to be a deer hunter in aus this present time... many others the same, we have had enough an with no authority really doing too much about it.... there is issues here.
 
WL, there are slob hunters all over the world.
We have them here on the Coast where, but a couple years back someone dumped 50-100 Snow Goose carcasses next to the farmland from whence the birds had been shot.
Lots of locals accused a certain person, but had no proof.
The guy is/was of questionable character and even that stunt was to much for his small-brain to accomplish.
Slobs everywhere...makes no sense cause it more effort to create the waste than to dispose of in a respectful manner.
Rob
 
Sorry, I'm with the crows & other scavengers that might get a feed off a body-less head. If it was poached and you seen the poaching taking place that's a different story, by all means be indignant but if it was a legitimate hunter & and you have no real proof that it wasn't, then I will say again scavengers do a real good job of living off the waste of a legitimate kill.

Waste from a legitimate kill will be just as optically offensive to a non-hunter no matter where it is found, in a remote bush or in a waste disposal facility so it might as well be somewhere where a wild scavenger can make some use of it rather than being buried in a landfill.
 
Well, before I'd read in to it that someone did a bolter after shooting and decapitating that deer, I'd work under the guess that someone hauled a carcass and a head home, and didn't put much thought in to how they were going to dispose of the remains once it was cut apart.

I have found partially stripped moose carcasses (sawn in to quarters, and obvious (poor) knife work) that had been left at camp sites, gut piles and hides left by the side of the road, and even an entire, skinned out black bear carcass. The bear was left laying in a roadside ditch in plain view.
Last real major find of that sort was a bundle of tarps, assorted plastic trash, and the remains of several deer, including the tags, still readable. That one I reported to the Alberta CO's, though I didn't hold much hope out that anything would come of it.

Slobs can be found about anywhere. Don't be that, and don't tolerate it from friends.
 
i understand its hard to understand from a computor in Canada in whats goin on in Australia, although i know.

il put my hilux on it, illegally shot.

just seeing if its so prolific in canada as aus

cheers
 
remyltr said:
i get more pi$$ed off when i find a body without its head
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thats through most of our national parks, bitumen road nation parks aswell..... no where is safe for a deer in australia, especially an antlered deer

even magazine articles from old legends- explaining how disrgruntled he is from all the headless bodies enroute to national parks

i mean its that full on, there was an ICE ring involved with the trade of Antler............. that notorious guy i believe was eventually caught, after one person died.
He/they did the hacksawing of the Skull cap in most cases, those sawn off antlers still intact to skull, skull caps aswell are dead set sign of illegally shot round here.

assuming it was chinese with the Ice but perhaps not (afrodiziac) whatever though it was serious business, they had a 5 hour or more round trip throughout victoria, never doubling back on themselves, which made it difficult for authority.

sine he was caught ive seen minimal cases since, but looks like the odd guy driving the roads still....... being heros.

another name of a notorious aussie is andrew saliba, convicted for poaching.
 
fingers284 said:
Sorry, I'm with the crows & other scavengers that might get a feed off a body-less head. If it was poached and you seen the poaching taking place that's a different story, by all means be indignant but if it was a legitimate hunter & and you have no real proof that it wasn't, then I will say again scavengers do a real good job of living off the waste of a legitimate kill.

Waste from a legitimate kill will be just as optically offensive to a non-hunter no matter where it is found, in a remote bush or in a waste disposal facility so it might as well be somewhere where a wild scavenger can make some use of it rather than being buried in a landfill.
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I guess it depends on where it was being thrown.

I put the antlerless head out by the gut pile after getting it back from the butcher, but thats on private property and not off a commonly used road. The gut pile was gone the next day and after going back a few days after leaving the head, the head was gone as well.

These guys look well fed
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WhelanLad said:
i understand its hard to understand from a computor in Canada in whats goin on in Australia, although i know.

il put my hilux on it, illegally shot.

just seeing if its so prolific in canada as aus

cheers
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Yeah. Sadly. A lot.

Plus, we have the added joys of having a bunch of specially privileged folks who can choose to do pretty much what they want, when they want.
 
We seem to get this same thread every year. Someone finds a skin, skeleton, head-less deer and automatically assumes the worst. All I see is a picture of a head that's been skull-capped. Why assume anything other than the guy could have shown a bit more discretion is throwing it away a little farther? It's back in nature where its supposed to be, and nature will quickly take care of it. 500 meters from the road and in the bush isn't exactly in plain sight.

Skeletons are a hard thing to depose of in town; here its illegal to throw them in the garbage but legal to bone out and leave in the field. It follows that hauling the bones back into the bush is the logical second best choice; the first being to leave them there in the first place. 'Course, someone might come along and find them before the coyotes clean them up and scream blue murder but the problem is with the guy who jumped to the wrong conclusion. Hides are worse; we have a stupid law that requires big game hides to be removed from the field, but there is no good way to dispose of them when you get home. The wildlife federation used to collect them and sell them but quit recently because they were losing money. It's illegal to send them to the the landfill, and not everyone has their farm or convenient bush to chuck them into.

Headless bodies beside the road seem to bring out the fish-cop in many people but the usual explanation is that someone spotted large antlers on a road-kill and sawed them off. It makes more sense than thinking someone shot it off a four lane highway and never got reported. Since a lot more people have a knife with them than a saw the heads tend to be cut off instead of antlers removed from the skull. My snaring permits allow me to pick up road killed deer for bait, but there's another level of reporting for antlers. A expedient for me would to snip the heads off with a chainsaw and leave it there after snapping a picture and reporting the pick-up on the same phone. Someone probably sees the heads before the next antler collectors but I'm certain that some of those conclude that a cult of animal mutilators is operating in the area.:rolleyes:
 
Dogleg said:
We seem to get this same thread every year. Someone finds a skin, skeleton, head-less deer and automatically assumes the worst. All I see is a picture of a head that's been skull-capped. Why assume anything other than the guy could have shown a bit more discretion is throwing it away a little farther? It's back in nature where its supposed to be, and nature will quickly take care of it. 500 meters from the road and in the bush isn't exactly in plain sight.

Skeletons are a hard thing to depose of in town; here its illegal to throw them in the garbage but legal to bone out and leave in the field. It follows that hauling the bones back into the bush is the logical second best choice; the first being to leave them there in the first place. 'Course, someone might come along and find them before the coyotes clean them up and scream blue murder but the problem is with the guy who jumped to the wrong conclusion. Hides are worse; we have a stupid law that requires big game hides to be removed from the field, but there is no good way to dispose of them when you get home. The wildlife federation used to collect them and sell them but quit recently because they were losing money. It's illegal to send them to the the landfill, and not everyone has their farm or convenient bush to chuck them into.
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^^^Well said.

I honestly don’t see anything wrong as we’re only seeing a single picture of a head minus the rack dumped in the bush, 500yds from the road is pretty far into the bush in all reality. Unless you have actual proof it was poached you don’t really know what the deal is.

In BC the hunting regs state that dumping carcass/attractant etc on or about any land where there is likely to be people where the carcass could attract dangerous wildlife is illegal. So dumping the head, hide and any bones in the bush is legal provided you don’t dump them in an area that sees traffic or is near town or others houses etc. If I skin and quarter a deer at home and remove the skull cap and rack guess where I’m leaving the head, hide and legs. Back in the bush away from any people where I’m legally allowed to, I can tell you this it all disappears quick fast.
 
Just wanted to throw in another scenario. Some campers dog found the skull and dragged it back. Nothing to freak out about. Something will eventually eat it. No signs of wrong doing finding a skull. I see a successful hunt.
 
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