Bolt Action .223 Rem Recommendations
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Someone pee in your corn flakes struff ? Sorry if my opinion doesn't agree with your thoughts.
Runnin the bolt fast usually means rapid rate of fire doesn't it ?? That's what I figured..hence my decision. Heavy barrel will also slow the heating up of the barrel some during the rapid fire.
MAYBE... IF...he ever decides to shoot outside in the daylight, and then perhaps maybe wants to stretch or extend his "range" he'll already be set for it.
Runnin the bolt fast usually means rapid rate of fire doesn't it ?? That's what I figured..hence my decision. Heavy barrel will also slow the heating up of the barrel some during the rapid fire.
MAYBE... IF...he ever decides to shoot outside in the daylight, and then perhaps maybe wants to stretch or extend his "range" he'll already be set for it.
If you are thinking about the axis, no I would not recommend it. Could experience light strike in the winter due to weak firing pin spring.
If it's a Savage 10/110/1x/1x0, then yes, they are great rifles.
Couple questions.
What is the max shooting distance of your indoor range? Even if it's 300 yards, any barrel length will get you to that distance.
You say run the bolt fast. That is more a function of your mechanics than the gun. That said, a smooth feeding rifle should run faster than one that hangs up.
Is your objective just to shoot fast? If so, I would get something threaded with a muzzle brake, that (along with practice and muscle control) will get you back on target faster. Consider something with a blast shield for the sake of your ears and that of others. I've shot a lot of rifles indoors, plugs and muffs are definitely the way to go.
My 2 choices would be the Ruger American Gen 1 Ranch AR mag version or Tikka CTR. Both will fit in an MDT Field Stock. Both can be run fast and both have threaded muzzles.
Tikka. CTR or Varmint, 1-8 twist gives you the option of heavier bullets if you get a chance to stretch it out at some point. They feed and eject smoothly. Good aftermarket if you think you need it, but I'd try one as-is first.
On youtube, watch a few of Texas Plinking 1000 yard 1moa challenges and Erik Cortina black jack challenges.Start with the early episodes and keep your finger on the fast foward button if you dont care for all the blah blah.
I reckon you'll see right quick how awesome a bolt action/mag fed rifle can be. And how janky, clunky and fiddle fingery most are.
Between those two series on youtube, if you watch enough of them, you'll see every action in action. (Factory, custom, factory custom, and everything inbetween)
My conclusion is basically... only the best custom rifles built with a high level of attention to detail offer the ability to "run a bolt fast"...consistently. Everything else is pretty inconsistent and janky looking.
I reckon you'll see right quick how awesome a bolt action/mag fed rifle can be. And how janky, clunky and fiddle fingery most are.
Between those two series on youtube, if you watch enough of them, you'll see every action in action. (Factory, custom, factory custom, and everything inbetween)
My conclusion is basically... only the best custom rifles built with a high level of attention to detail offer the ability to "run a bolt fast"...consistently. Everything else is pretty inconsistent and janky looking.
Years back I purchased a 223 Remington 700 AA SD with a 16” threaded heavy barrel. Not fancy and the factory rubbery stock flexed but I put it in a first gen MDT LSS chassis and it is a cheap sub moa tack driver and with one of those cheap plastic bolt knob 2 part covers (bolt lift?) it cycles fast and is smooth.
YMMV but I am very pleased with this cheap rigid accurate setup,
YMMV but I am very pleased with this cheap rigid accurate setup,
I have a couple Ruger American ranch rifles in different calibers. Both great. I put iron sights on my other one but not the 223 yet. The gen 1 rifle has a regular profile barrel so adding irons is not a problem. It’s pretty much impossible on the gen 2’s because of the fluted barrel. It isn’t what I’d call a fast action. About as fast as any other bolt action. You could put it in a magpul stock if you want. They have all the m lock slots you could ever use. I put mine in a boyds laminate stock and really prefer it over the factory cheesy plastic stock.
The savage 110 scout 223 is a heck of a gun right now and would be my recommendation. They use magpul 10 round aics magazines but that’s an advantage if you foresee a future where “ar mags” are ever further restricted.
If you could find a (discontinued) Ruger m77 scout in 223 that would be even better than the savage probably
The savage 110 scout 223 is a heck of a gun right now and would be my recommendation. They use magpul 10 round aics magazines but that’s an advantage if you foresee a future where “ar mags” are ever further restricted.
If you could find a (discontinued) Ruger m77 scout in 223 that would be even better than the savage probably
What’s your price point?
I assume limited to bolt action?
While lots of people push the Ruger I’m not one of them…for several reasons.
My American isn’t a 223 or a gen 2 but I’d be surprised if they are any different.
The bolt lift is heavy. A longer handle greatly improves this but is extra money, and still not a complete win.
The bolt is rough. It’s easy to polish this out but that’s extra effort and without the correct tools or skill set can lead to bubba results.
The action screw in front of the trigger requires the magazine catch to be removed every time the action is pulled from the stock. This gets old fast as it’s tedious and the pin bore is plastic.
As for recommendations it really depends on price point.
The Field stock is available for the 783 and the Tikka or 700.
Those fit your build at opposite ends of the price spectrum.
I assume limited to bolt action?
While lots of people push the Ruger I’m not one of them…for several reasons.
My American isn’t a 223 or a gen 2 but I’d be surprised if they are any different.
The bolt lift is heavy. A longer handle greatly improves this but is extra money, and still not a complete win.
The bolt is rough. It’s easy to polish this out but that’s extra effort and without the correct tools or skill set can lead to bubba results.
The action screw in front of the trigger requires the magazine catch to be removed every time the action is pulled from the stock. This gets old fast as it’s tedious and the pin bore is plastic.
As for recommendations it really depends on price point.
The Field stock is available for the 783 and the Tikka or 700.
Those fit your build at opposite ends of the price spectrum.
I have had 4 Ruger ranches. the Gen1 in 223 which had some feeding issues and was rough.
3x in x39. The first one was junk and sent back for warranty(wouldn't extract live rounds, was horrifically inaccurate, chamber was so out of spec the primer would push out of the brass and the brass would be left with concentric grooves). i waited around 6 months for a warranty replacement. which had damage to the finish, and the taped threads in the receiver for the pic rail were stripped out. the 3rd one i shot once and it was rough. so i sold it. i wouldn't recommend them at all.
I will note that the 223 Gen 1 was pretty accurate.
Yes, mine is a gen 1 in 6.5CM and one thing I’ll give it is it is accurate.
One factory box of ammo and it’s grouping well under an inch, about .75 ish.
Awesome from the budget aspect and I think it is good looking.
It’s a shame about its other woes though.
One factory box of ammo and it’s grouping well under an inch, about .75 ish.
Awesome from the budget aspect and I think it is good looking.
It’s a shame about its other woes though.
