Bolt Action 22LR Advice

JP23 said:
Haha, any particular reason you're going for the Scout version?
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Hey JP23~because I just want one. :) Very good accuracy reports for a short barrel, compact, light...I have lots of mags... :) It would never be (and never was) my first choice for a 452, that honour goes to the 452 Varmint I suggested earlier. The scout? I want one for a "companion" rifle for when I go shoot clays at the farm, doing some pest work, going hiking and hoping to see a grouse, etc.

I'm not clear on how much experience you have/don't have with 22 bolt guns or really what your accuracy expectations are... but... if you have deep pockets and want to jump right to "the best"...I get why you're considering an Anschutz. However, reading all the comments in this thread I'm getting the impression that you might have reservations about getting a CZ. I mean...buy whatever you want, but in my opinion...buying a CZ 452 shouldn't be considered a compromise. To me, they stand alone in their price range and I'm proud to own a 452. I dig it enough to be looking for that Scout too! My experience with Anschutz (until tomorrow :) ) has been limited to an almost 30 year old model 1450, the first .22 I ever bought. It would be impossible to guess how many rounds I have through that rifle, and I consider IT to be responsible for my love of rimfires. If your budget easily allows for an Anschutz~go for it, but if that's the case...you probably have the budget to play around with a CZ first. Worst case scenario, you play with a nice 452 for a year...and sell it for almost what you paid for it. Chances are, you won't sell it at all.
 
What a lot of it comes down to is what type of person you are. Group "A" wants to buy a good rifle at the most affordable price/performance ratio, that will do it's job well. Group "B" wants a rifle that (in addition to being accurate) is also an heirloom quality firearm that will be used for a lifetime and possibly passed on to future generations, and will provide genuine pride of ownership. The CZ, Savage, Marlin, etc. all fall into group "A". The Anschutz, low production, collectors, and customs all fall into the second group.

The Savage represents a great value. The CZ's provide little more (if any) than the Savage in accuracy, but the build quality and appearance is nicer, and a sweet spot for many in terms of quality per dollar (I've owned nearly a dozen of them myself, and have another on order currently - I certainly don't have anything bad to say about CZ's). Above the CZ you quickly get into the law of diminishing returns, though as with anything else, there is more performance/quality to be had, albeit in small, expensive steps.

Ideally (in my "opinions are like A-holes" rambling) it's nice to own one fairly affordable rimfire, as well as a companion high dollar uber-gun. Much like having a weekend/evening/date night car in addition to your daily driver.
 
GD7 said:
What a lot of it comes down to is what type of person you are. Group "A" wants to buy a good rifle at the most affordable price/performance ratio, that will do it's job well. Group "B" wants a rifle that (in addition to being accurate) is also an heirloom quality firearm that will be used for a lifetime and possibly passed on to future generations, and will provide genuine pride of ownership. The CZ, Savage, Marlin, etc. all fall into group "A". The Anschutz, low production, collectors, and customs all fall into the second group.

The Savage represents a great value. The CZ's provide little more (if any) than the Savage in accuracy, but the build quality and appearance is nicer, and a sweet spot for many in terms of quality per dollar (I've owned nearly a dozen of them myself, and have another on order currently - I certainly don't have anything bad to say about CZ's). Above the CZ you quickly get into the law of diminishing returns, though as with anything else, there is more performance/quality to be had, albeit in small, expensive steps.

Ideally (in my "opinions are like A-holes" rambling) it's nice to own one fairly affordable rimfire, as well as a companion high dollar uber-gun. Much like having a weekend/evening/date night car in addition to your daily driver.
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Yeah, I'm leaning towards the Group B since I already have a Marlin semi-auto that would be my daily driver.
 
GD7 said:
Ideally (in my "opinions are like A-holes" rambling) it's nice to own one fairly affordable rimfire, as well as a companion high dollar uber-gun.
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My fav "bush .22lr" is a Norinco JW-15A Hiker based on the BRNO bolt design. The 13"bbl and 30" OAL makes the rifle very handy. I bought it used for $130 so if it gets scuffed a bit I couldn't care less. Mine wears a Simmons 22mag 4x fixed scope and is surprisingly accurate with bulk .22lr ammo. It also takes CZ mags.

When I'm in the mood to shoot off the bench I love my S&L M77 with diopter sights. The Seller completely restored the rifle to showroom condition....I would never take it into the woods. For little $$ it shoots tiny groups!
 
johNTO said:
My fav "bush .22lr" is a Norinco JW-15A Hiker based on the BRNO bolt design. The 13"bbl and 30" OAL makes the rifle very handy. I bought it used for $130 so if it gets scuffed a bit I couldn't care less. Mine wears a Simmons 22mag 4x fixed scope and is surprisingly accurate with bulk .22lr ammo. It also takes CZ mags.

When I'm in the mood to shoot off the bench I love my S&L M77 with diopter sights. The Seller completely restored the rifle to showroom condition....I would never take it into the woods. For little $$ it shoots tiny groups!
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I love my JW-15A 13", great size and the fact that it takes CZ mags (which I have several for my CZ455) made it as easy choice. Going to be a plinker rifle on the property and for the price you can't go wrong! But if I had to have one bolt .22, my 455 FS topped with a leupold 1.5-5x would be it every time.
 
JP23 said:
Good to know, did you end up getting an Annie in the end?
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That I did, while I was in the depths of frustration with my CZ, I just wanted something that would fruitin' shoot! Nordic just got a shipment of MPR's and MSR's in, and being a sucker for nice furniture I could not say no to this beauty...



It's not the 54 action I had stupidly passed up for the CZ, but the 64 is nothing to sneeze at either. I'd still like a 54 at some point, but I've jumped right off the deep end in the rimfire game and am working on some custom builds at the moment so funds and time are tied up in those ventures.

Underthegun said:
Ok. Here it is. The challenge is to shoot 5 five shot groups with a 22lr at 50 yards/meters under 1/2"

Tried and succeeded:

RabidM4U5-----------------------------Anschütz 64 MS R
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RabidM4U5 said:
That I did, while I was in the depths of frustration with my CZ, I just wanted something that would fruitin' shoot! Nordic just got a shipment of MPR's and MSR's in, and being a sucker for nice furniture I could not say no to this beauty...



It's not the 54 action I had stupidly passed up for the CZ, but the 64 is nothing to sneeze at either. I'd still like a 54 at some point, but I've jumped right off the deep end in the rimfire game and am working on some custom builds at the moment so funds and time are tied up in those ventures.
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Very nice I wish, but someone at the homestead would have something to say about why I need another :)
 
Hey all,

Quick update on this. I picked up a lovely NS522 from EE based on a recommendation from a friend. Closest to a 54 action at a fraction of the price. The stock leaves more to be desired, so am looking to replace it. Any one have any recommendations?
 
JP23 said:
Hey all,

Quick update on this. I picked up a lovely NS522 from EE based on a recommendation from a friend. Closest to a 54 action at a fraction of the price. The stock leaves more to be desired, so am looking to replace it. Any one have any recommendations?
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Great choice, its no hierloom quality, but its the most value for accuracy you will find. Save up for an Annie in the meantime. I sold all of the Savage and CZ bolt rifles I have owned and currently only have an NS522 and an Anchutz Match 64...
 
Every gun has its pros and cons... "cost" is definitely a consideration... but the words "Norinco" and "Anschutz" should never appear in the same sentence.
 
hoytcanon said:
Every gun has its pros and cons... "cost" is definitely a consideration... but the words "Norinco" and "Anschutz" should never appear in the same sentence.
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I thought the Norinco NS522 was built on Anschutz machinery acquired by the Chinese. There's a sentance with both in it...
 
sk8snwmx said:
I thought the Norinco NS522 was built on Anschutz machinery acquired by the Chinese. There's a sentance with both in it...
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All this Norinco chatter has me googling this gun that I'm not familiar with. Seems to look ok, Anshoots well too. :cool:
 
I love my 452 Varmint very much. It is quite accurate with CCI Standard Velocity ammo.
I am interested in the Original Sako Finnfire Varmint, and the Anschutz 1710 D HB
 
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Even the ns522 and em332 ( much better guns than the jw15) can take some fiddling before they shoot. If you get them all sorted it has alot of potential. Think of it as a beater gun with great bones. If you want a great project gun with the possiblilty of match accuracy they are perfect.

The anschutz (esp 54 action) is a high end gun that will shoot well out of the box every time. They simply won't ship anything that isn't up to standard.

Note the separate paragraphs.
 
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