hi iam looking to buy a bolt action .22 lr that shoots .22 shorts also. i prefer a detachable 10 rnd steel mag. im hoping to keep it around $800 just for the gun. Im not lookking for long range shooting. I like the CZ 455 452 457. i know the 457s might be alittle more. i cant find on the internet if they shoot shorts. forgive my ignornace.
bolt action .22lr that can shoot 22 shorts also
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Generally speaking, most box-type cartridge magazines are designed for best operation with a particular cartridge of a particular length. A box-type cartridge magazine that was designed for .22LR is going to be optimized for the .22LR, and in most cases the (shorter) .22 short is likely to cause a misfeed. If reliable function is a requirement, along with relatively low noise, there are loads for that; CCI's '22 QUIET', for example, is quieter than most shorts and it will feed reliably. If .22 short is a requirement, there are rifles for that; some .22 rifles - fed with tubular-type magazines - are designed to accommodate short, and long, and long rifle.
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The design of the magazine lips on a box style magazine means that you have to load the magazine with what it is intended for. But you can single load the chamber from the open bolt and shoot with any of the .22 style rounds from CB caps to 22LR.
And like Wendell said above it's different for rifles with tubular mags. My Henry lever with tubular mag works with CB caps, shorts, long and long rifle. With the CB caps it's so quiet I think I can spit louder than the report from a fired CB cap round.
And like Wendell said above it's different for rifles with tubular mags. My Henry lever with tubular mag works with CB caps, shorts, long and long rifle. With the CB caps it's so quiet I think I can spit louder than the report from a fired CB cap round.
Ok cool. Doesn’t have to shoot shorts necessarily didn’t know there were “ quiet “ .22 rounds. That is a good compromise and this will be my answer. Thank you very much.
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skid dog - I am into my first ever box of CCI Quiet - box says they are 22 Long Rifle - 40 grain Round Nose bullet - 710 fps muzzle velocity - no clue what barrel length was used for that number. Versus some CCI 22 LR "Standard Velocity" at 1,070 fps. Versus some Winchester Super-X "Power Point Copper Plated" 40 grain at 1,280 fps. I do not own any 22 Short or 22 Long, so I do not know what their advertised velocity is - but pretty sure they used to be made with lighter weight bullets - 29 grains?
Depending what rifle you end up with - from many years ago - do not try to single load a Cooey 60 and slam the bolt shut - those extractors can act like firing pins and set off that round with the bolt not closed - I had thought it was important to get "one more" shot after tube magazine was emptied - was picking pieces of brass case out of my palm immediately, and a piece from my face after about a year ...
Depending what rifle you end up with - from many years ago - do not try to single load a Cooey 60 and slam the bolt shut - those extractors can act like firing pins and set off that round with the bolt not closed - I had thought it was important to get "one more" shot after tube magazine was emptied - was picking pieces of brass case out of my palm immediately, and a piece from my face after about a year ...
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Why shorts? They are currently more expensive that long rifle. With the CCI Quiets, CZ does not recommend them in their rifles.
When looking for noise reduction by substituting shorts for Long Rifle there is not much difference as found out using them in a S&W revolver.
Tubular mags will generally function S, L, LR or something similar stamped on the barrel.
Marlins, Remington or Winchester will have some version of a tubular mag.
When looking for noise reduction by substituting shorts for Long Rifle there is not much difference as found out using them in a S&W revolver.
Tubular mags will generally function S, L, LR or something similar stamped on the barrel.
Marlins, Remington or Winchester will have some version of a tubular mag.
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My experience with CCI Quiet different than horseman2 - fired in 18" barrel Deutsche Werke and 23" barrel Stevens Favourite 1915 - no "crack" - more like a "phfftt" - first shot was with my pick-up's engine running, I was not sure it fired, until I opened the action and saw the fired case. Might be different in a revolver with gap between cylinder and much shorter barrel??
As a given, guns chambered for Long Rifle, typically had 1:16 barrels. The Guns chambered in Short, had 1:22 twist barrels. Some more, some less.
Shooting one, in the other, is a compromise!
There was a time when .22 Short was a serious Target round, in Rifles. It held on, in Olympic Pistols for a long while (particularly in Rapid Fire), but has since been pretty much relegated to the history books.
I can recall when buying a box of Shorts, meant I was not able to scrounge up enough to afford Longs, or Long Rifle ammo. It's sorta gone arse backwards from that point!
Shooting one, in the other, is a compromise!
There was a time when .22 Short was a serious Target round, in Rifles. It held on, in Olympic Pistols for a long while (particularly in Rapid Fire), but has since been pretty much relegated to the history books.
I can recall when buying a box of Shorts, meant I was not able to scrounge up enough to afford Longs, or Long Rifle ammo. It's sorta gone arse backwards from that point!
I was hoping to buy a CZ bolt action. Is that not a good idea for shorts then??
