Bolt action and Semi-auto "pairs"

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I noticed a lot of milsurp rifles have bolt action and semi-auto "pairs". Meaning, they usually come from the same nation, and fire the same caliber and type of ammunition.

So i was thinking it would be neat to start collecting a few interesting "pairs". But was wondering what is out their?

I know of:
Springfield 1903 and the M1 Garrand (USA-30-06)
Mosin Nagant and the SVT-40 (Russia/Soviet Union-7.62x54r)
M96 Mauser and AG-42/42B (Sweden-6.5x55)
K98 Mauser and Gewer43 (Germany-8mm/7.92x57)
FN Mauser variants and the FN-49 (Belgium-30-06)

I know there are more, so wondering what they are?
 
French mas36 and mas49. 7.5x54

They even look nearly the same.

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Czech vz.24 mauser and ZH29 semi automatic rifle. Polish wz.29 mauser and wz.38 semi automatic rifle (a prototype was said to have been used by the designer to shoot down a German plane in 1939). Both the Czech and Polish rifles were 7.92x57mm.

Also Nationalist China used 7.92x57mm mausers and had a prototype semi automatic rifle designed by General Liu and tested at Springfield Armory in the USA. Not put into production though. Mexico had the 7x57mm Mondragon semi automatic rifle in service alongside 7x57mm Mauser bot action rifles. The U.S. also fielded the .30-06 P17 bolt action rifle in WW2.

Soviets had an earlier selective fire rifle, the AVS 36, which was later dropped from production in favour of the SVT 38.
 
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It would also be interesting to collect magazine fed selective fire rifle/light machine guns alongside the 'paired' bolt action rifles by country. Dewats unless you have the proper license of course.

Belgium, Sweden, Poland, the United States and I believe Latvia or Estonia all fielded the Browning Automatic Rifle in WW2. Czechoslovakia had the ZB vz.26. Britain and Commonwealth countries used the Bren. There was also the Masden and the Finns had the M/26 Lahti Saloranta. Plus the Soviet pan fed light machine guns.
 
Another semi automatic/bolt action 'pair' would be the .30-06 Johnson rifle with either the Springfield Model 1903 or the P17. I believe the American Marines used Johnsons for awhile.
 
burnt_servo said:
what about triplets ?

Norwegian krag , Swedish mauser , ag42
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Norway never adapted the AG-42. The only thing that those three share in common is the ammo type. I think what the OP is asking for is rifles used by the same country in the same calibers, one semi-auto, one bolt-action.

You can always expand on the FN-49 as well as it was used by more than just Belgium (two good examples for that would be Columbia and Venezuela). Otherwise it seems to me you already have most of the main variants listed above, for the original calibers (most nations just adapted the FN-FAL as there first purpose built semi or had been given M1 Garands).
 
What about pistols and sub guns sharing the same rounds.....1911 and the Thompson, Luger/P38 and the MP38, lots of those to collect too lol
 
Hitzy said:
What about pistols and sub guns sharing the same rounds.....1911 and the Thompson, Luger/P38 and the MP38, lots of those to collect too lol
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You could add the TT33 Tokarev and PPSh 41 and PPSh 43 to tbis list. Both in 7.62x25mm.

The Finns also had the M/31 Suomi in 9mm and had an assortment of pistols including the Luger in 9mm (most were 7.63mm though), the Lahti L/35 and some Browning Hi Powers. The U.S. also fielded the M3 'Grease Gun' in .45 ACP.

Canada had the Inglis and the Sten in 9mm.
 
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A Hakim and any 8mm Mauser (k98 variant) that might have wandered through Egypt during its lifetime - which would be a helluva lot of 8mm Mauser bolt guns.
 
Hitzy said:
What about pistols and sub guns sharing the same rounds.....1911 and the Thompson, Luger/P38 and the MP38, lots of those to collect too lol
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For the most part I'm only talking dewats here unless you have the proper license or live elsewhere but you could also collect the French MAS 38 (if you could find one) to go with the M1935 pistol. Both in 7.65 Long. Plus Sweden had the M/40 pistol (until withdrawn from service) and the M/45 sub gun. Both in 9mm Parabellum. I believe there was a dewat M/45 for sale a while back on the EE. Expensive and didn't last long.
 
The SMLE and the Farquhar Hill rifle! Service was limited, but it saw use with air crews, and apparently the British army had an order in for them before the war ended in 1918, obviously the order didn't go through.
 
Kman303 said:
The SMLE and the Farquhar Hill rifle! Service was limited, but it saw use with air crews, and apparently the British army had an order in for them before the war ended in 1918, obviously the order didn't go through.
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I've thought these were neat looking rifles, and would be a hoot to shoot.

Are there even any of them around in Canada?

 
One Thing I noticed was their never was a semi-auto .303 pattern rifle fielded in any of the commonwealth in the numbers comparable to rifles such as the SVT-40 and the Garrand. We went straight from the bolt action Lee Enfield right into the FAL Pattern rifles.

I understand their probably prototypes (I think what would eventually become the FN-49 was one) but nothing substantial.

Might be a neat project for someone with some good gunsmith skills. If I had said skills I think an FN-49 would make an excellent "what if" semi in .303. Would make sense too since early prototypes of the rifle were tested by the brits in the later stages of the war. Probably would not be too hard to find an old egyption with a rotted out bore but good mechanical condition.
 
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