bolt action drop out mag or hinged floor plate ?

[Battle River]

Every hunter that I know of has lost or misplaced their mag at an unoportune time, with several missed opportunities as a result. Actually my go to deer rifle has a blind magazine, and I have yet to have trouble feeding. Mahgazines rattle, get lost, limit seating depth and are never where they should be.

 

[MTM]

If you like clips and they work for your hunting style great. I prefer floorlplates or even blind mags. For a serious handloader this would seem the way to go.

 

[stubblejumper]

Someone reading this thread could assume that hunters are all absent minded goofs,after hearing about all of those lost magazines.To those people that can't keep track of their magazine,do you lose your wallet ,your ID and your keys as well?How do you keep from losing your guns,ammunition,binoculars,knives and licenses while on hunts?

 

[martinbns]

Stubblejumper,
I'm not particularly absent minded, but I have forgotten or misplaced all the things you listed there at one time or another. That being said, two things I would never be without on a hunt I am using a rifle for is cartridges and or the clip.
Cheers
Martin

 

[NAA]

I prefer hinged floorplates but also don't feel disadvantaged by blind magazines [i.e. no floor plate or detachable magazine]. A detachable magazine would be my last choice.

But if I have to have one, I'd prefer the Browning A-bolt style where you have a hinged floorplate with a detachable magazine inside it.

 

[ryanb]

I forgot my magazine at home once. I didn't let it ruin my day hunting, my rifle was just a single shot rifle for that day, no big deal. I honestly think if you're in and out of your truck a lot during a day, a mag just makes things go more smoothly. It's just one of those things where it doesnt really save you any significant amount of time, but just FEELS like its easier/faster, and that's good enough for me. If you find yourself misplacing your magazine, its a good idea to come up with a routine spot where you keep it so you don't have that problem anymore.

 

[RUPZUK]

Both work pretty well .
Anything beats a tube IMO .
As long as the DM feeds properly I like it more but few do .
Most of mine are DM , for no real reason .

 

[John Y Cannuck]

I've been hunting closing on fourty years now, and in all that time, I can think of only one instance of a guy forgetting his mags. I can remember two of guys forgetting thier amo though!
You go through a checklist every time you go out, or you will forget something, it's simple.

 

[Spitzer]

I've always preferred detach mags and particularly the A-bolt style up until last years incedent elk hunting.
A friend had three griz (sow, 2-two year old cubs) charge while cow calling and got off one shot, went to chamber another round and the Browning hinged floorplate swung open when the bolt was pulled back. Luckily it only took one round to stop the charge.
Watch your back when cow calling, and make sure your magazine is secure. #### happens fast.

 

[DarrylDB]

I guess having all of the above, my preference by far goes to the Browning A bolt system. Fast, and reliable, has all of the benifits of a floorplate, without the BS of rattling shells and toploading every time you cross a road, or get in and out of the truck etc. As long as your not a butcher, the system will work flawlessly, but I've heard of guys bending the floorplate, and it not working worth a #### after. Like any rifle with an alloy floorplate, its succeptable to more damage than a steel one, but much much lighter.
I allways reload my gun the first chance get after firing, whatever I hunt. and with an extra mag for the browning, its quick, and quiet, and less fumbling when your full of adrenaline IMHO. Or, you can reload your one clip with one still in the tube if your bear hunting quickly, without ever removing the clip off the floorplate. If the need be, you slap it closed, and your back in business with no mag fumbling. My mags wont come 0ff unless you physically remove them. no opening of the floorplate, or jiggling will get it loose once its in.
I see a practical advantage, dont you?

 

[BIGREDD]

please get to the point, I fail to see a practical hunting advantage in any of that.

Floorplate: open bolt, insert round, close bolt, kill critter.
Mag: insert mag, open bolt, close bolt kill critter.

getting in and out of the truck a lot? a mag will save 5mins over the course of the day, tops.

Mag has the advantage......where? again. i's personal preference, but a mag has NO advantage.

Well if your logic held true then there is no need for a bolt action at all... a single shot would suffice... do you use a single shot???? that's what I thought

I suppose you are going to tell me that you can load and unload a hinged floor plate rifle with less noise than a Detachable mag... or are you going to tell me that noise is not a factor when hunting.

Lets talk about the speed issue... you seem in an awful hurry to dismiss the speed factor. There are lots of situations where we may have to load quickly... and I am not talking about road hunting... this is Ontario not the Mountains... not a lot of road hunting goes on around here it is simply impractical and illegal in most cases. We do have to cross many roads while hunting in southern areas... and sometimes you are running to intercept a deer or a coyote... Detachable Mags are a necessity in these circumstances.

I will not go into detail on the need for multiple shots when dogging or driving... unless you have done it you cannot understand. For those of us who have hunted in the bush in front of dogs, repeaters and extra mags are the rule not the exception.

I agree that personal preference is a factor but your insistence detachable mag has no advantage only underscores your one dimensional hunting experience.

 

[Claybuster]

I prefer a detachable magazine due to circumstances. Because I live in a rural area and can keep an unloaded rifle at hand I like the detachable magazine because I can keep ammo nearby and load the rifle faster. If the rifle were for hunting only I'd probably have a hinged floorplate.

 

[Algonquin]

Unlikely thread goes to town

I'm surprised how lively this thread has become. I've a good friend who hunts with big-bore single shots, one big one is usually worth any number of little ones.
Myself, I have both but most of my favourite hunting rifles are hinged floorplate type and I'm OK with that. I still manage to do what I need to do.

 

[stubblejumper]

I guess having all of the above, my preference by far goes to the Browning A bolt system. Fast, and reliable, has all of the benifits of a floorplate, without the BS of rattling shells and toploading every time you cross a road, or get in and out of the truck etc

As the former owner of a browning a-bolt,I found the magazine system needlessly complicated and much slower than the tikka and remingtin 700 systems.

 

[DarrylDB]

As the former owner of a browning a-bolt,I found the magazine system needlessly complicated and much slower than the tikka and remingtin 700 systems.

Really? ever tried to topload either DM's???

 

[stubblejumper]

Really? ever tried to topload either DM's???

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Why would I?It is much quicker to simply change magazines and I always carry a second loaded magazine.Of course it is much slower to change magazines with an a-bolt.

 

[DarrylDB]

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Why would I?It is much quicker to simply change magazines and I always carry a second loaded magazine.Of course it is much slower to change magazines with an a-bolt.

hardly, its a push of a button, and off she comes.

Keep in mind stubble, I just sold a Tikka M695 with a DM which i had spent quite a bit of time shooting, and played with a nice 700 SS DM in 260 last month. You have to pull the mag out with the tikka, and its pretty tight with gloves on, but i can operate the mag system on the browning with gloves on. Even hunted in the snow, or packed a rifle on your back on a snowmobile? Your DM fills up with snow fast... been there, done that.
The browning system on the other hand doesnt...
All mags are equally expensive for a second, and as a one mag system, the browning is more versitile. But we're both entitled to our opinion as to which is better. I think Im just a better arguer

 

[Amphibious]

I agree that personal preference is a factor but your insistence detachable mag has no advantage only underscores your one dimensional hunting experience.

been hunting outside of Ontario yet? I've been hunting in 3 provinces, how many for you? can't forget Wyoming, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey

yes yes, one dimensional........


If singleshots were as consistantly accurate as a bolt action rifle it would be all I would hunt with

and what;s this of noise? how full of #### are you tonight! the glentle click of a shell going into a floorplate weapon is far more muted then the snap of a mag clicking in. at least on most mag fed rifles I've used. the others there was no noticable noise difference. again, no advantage to the mag.


but we've been here before.... so how bout you go back to playing with your semi auto , lazer sighted, short mag, bakelike Tikka, mag fed lovechild and I will go get some shuteye....

 

[BIGREDD]

There ya go Phib getting all pissy... I'LL see your three provinces and raise you two States. You can have the desert... although I hear the mountains in Turkey are very nice.

Single shots are most definitely as accurate as Bolts but thanks for proving my point about your experience.

Now you are telling me that loading through the ejection port is quieter than a D/M... this is beyond ludicrous... you make metal to metal contact each time you place a cartridge. And each cartridge has to roll over the top and snap into place that's two clicks per cartridge. And many of them have to be pushed back against the back of the mag well dragging the cartridge over the other cartridge and the side of the mag well. There is no way to muffle any of these contacts or noises with your hand outside of the mag well. How this is quieter than a single muffled click shielded by a hand is beyond me.

You my friend are the one who is full of it... and himself it seems.
How about we trade some more insults... it is only a lame attempt at deflection from a losing argument... but I like a good insult and fully expect to hear more.

 

[350tracker]

I personally like the clip better...