Bond’s back to PPK….

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Bond’s back to PPK….

Just saw the new Bond movie and looks like 007 no longer uses the Walther P99; in most of the scenes where he had a gun he was using either a PPK or some other gun that could be a 1911 or Tokarov… Anyone got a better look?

Btw the movie wasn’t that great; as good as Casino Royal IMO.
 
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IM_Lugger said:
Just saw the new Bond movie and looks like 007 no longer uses the Walther P99; in most of the scenes where he had a gun he was using either a PPK or some other gun that could be a 1911 or Tokarov… Anyone got a better look?

Btw the movie wasn’t that great; as good as Casino Royal IMO.
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Yup, I saw that. The girl was using a PPS though and I thought Bond was using a USP in the Pearl of the Dunes. One things for certain, HK paid the product placement fee, UMP, MP5, G36 and what looked like a HK91.

I have issues with the way the movie was edited. It felt like they were trying to copy the Bourne trilogy and cut most scenes too tight. Bond movies are meant to be superficial but not that much.
 
Remember that these are supposed to be Bond's early days. And stop and recall his attachment to the PPK in the early Connery movies that were actually "later" than these new movies. Going with the PPK is just being historically correct!

Although now that I've gotten into this new hobby I'm inclined to agree with M and Q and wonder what the hell he's doing with that little popgun.... :D
 
BCRider said:
Remember that these are supposed to be Bond's early days. And stop and recall his attachment to the PPK in the early Connery movies that were actually "later" than these new movies. Going with the PPK is just being historically correct!
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If it was supposed to reflect Bond's early days then he would be carrying a Beretta Bobcat in .25ACP. Geoff Boothroyd, a well known Glaswegian shooter, persuaded Ian Fleming to re-arm Bond with the PPK as in the late 1950's, it was what he considered as best concealable double action pistol available. After the Princess Anne fiasco, the disco gun should have been laid to rest both in fiction and real life. And anyway, the double action pull on the PPK sucks the sweat from a dead dogs balls.
 
The 32 ACP is great for suppressed assassination. In my experience :).
If you don't have time to #### the DA hammer, you won't have time to complain about it.


Edit: Oh no! I posted in the Bond thread!
 
My girlfriend and I saw it tonight as well. I thought it was pretty good. The influnce of the "Bourne" movies is pervasive in Hollywood action movies these days, particularly in terms of the "brutal" approach to filming fight scenes. You can see it in lots of movies, including the two Christopher Nolan Batman films, and of course the two two most recent Bond films.

On the guns... yah... the way the movie is filmed/edited/choreographed... it is hard to get a good look at any of the hardware... except for the Sony Ericsson gagets, Ford/Aston Martin vehicles... etc. You can see all the "partners" at the film's website... www.007.com and at www.007.com/partners

Heckler & Koch isn't listed as a "partner", but who knows. Their guns are everywhere in the movies. These days it would be weird to make any kind of international spy/military/espionage-type thriller without HK gear.

The imfdb page is very undeveloped for this movie so far. It will get better in a hurry though, given how many people are going to this movie and talking about it over the next few days and weeks:
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Quantum_of_Solace

Yah.... the P99 has been dumped. It isn't seen in the movie at all, which is a bit weird, because it has been used quite prominently in the last four Bond films: Tomorrow Never Dies (1997), The World Is Not Enough (1999), Die Another Day (2002), and Casino Royale (2006).
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Walther_P99

I won't re-hash what it currently says on the imfdb page... but yah... PPK is Bond's gun again. Not what I would want to have guarding my life, but I guess it is an iconic little thing.

Bond takes his 9mm UMP when he goes to get Mr. White (end of last movie, begining of new one).... I guess the pea shooter wasn't enough.

The other British agents all seem to have SIGs. I was thinking 228 or 225, but imfdb is saying 226... that could change if we get some screen caps.

I was trying to think of what Olga Kurylenko's gun was... that's makes sense what people are saying... the new Walther PPS. If Walther doesn't pay the Bond franchise money, they should. It seems like one of the few things that keep anybody's interest going in their products. And for HK... having their UMP turned into the iconic image on the posters for the new film... that has got to be worth some money.

I wouldn't have guessed that the gun he has at the end of the movie is a SIG P210, but it is definiately a big old-style gun. Time (and the DVD release) will tell.

One weird thing about this movie... I never thought I would hear the phrase "you're working Canadian intelligence" uttered in a Bond film... but now it has.
 
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ghostie said:
I never thought I would hear the phrase "you're working Canadian intelligence" uttered in a Bond film... but now it has.
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Did you notice how the nice Canadian lady said "thank you" when she left the room? True Canadian eh.

Friends who watched it my place yesterday eve also commented it was a bit Bourne like. Did not like that some of the action scenes were so quick and changed so quickly that could not really tell what was happening.

And the Aston at the beginning, actually, come to think of it, where was Q branch all together? At least we know who developed the computer for the Enterprise. Atypical way of unloading the Beretta 92 as well, keep cycling action till empty.

Enjoyed it though, descent enough picture. But definitely a different formula.
 
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tenexx said:
Yup, I saw that. The girl was using a PPS though and I thought Bond was using a USP in the Pearl of the Dunes. One things for certain, HK paid the product placement fee, UMP, MP5, G36 and what looked like a HK91.
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Seeing how HK cannot sell any of those guns to civilians anymore (thanks to German export laws as well as bans in various countries), it would be a pretty pointless thing to do. I doubt that military procurements are influenced by James Bond movies to any great degree, but I've been wrong before.
 
i hope they get back to the old style for the next bond, im getting sick of the bourne style. yea i like the movies but its not the bond style and i go to bond for that style, if i wanted bourne id watch bourne
 
I found it worse than the last one... too much pointless filler garbage, not enough action and wtf are all the Bond gadgets?
 
kombayotch said:
... wtf are all the Bond gadgets?
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Apparantly the gagets (other than the fancy cellphone-type gaget and the Minority Report-style display screens at MI6) are gone in order to boost the "realism" of these newer Bond films. It will probably be a good long time before we see the traditonal "Q takes Bond through the latest gagets" scene. The Q character is (of course) gone altogether. I think the idea is to focus on the relationship between M and Bond... and strip down everything else. Which is kind of creepy... Bond obsessed with mommy?? :confused: Bond is barely even getting laid these days (like all guys obsessed with mommy), although he does have one notable conquest in the new film (unfortunately not Olga Kurylenko... damn she looks hot in this!)

Over-the-top CGI effects are gone as well (although the "airplane chase" in the new one... some of that has to be CGI). It's all about "realism" for Bond these days... or as some call it, "the Bournification of Bond".
 
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Hey, shouldn't he be using the Beretta that M will eventually will take away in the beginning of Dr. No?

M: Armourer! (to Bond) Take off your jacket! Give me your gun.
Yes, I thought so. This damn Beretta again. I’ve told you about this before. (to Boothroyd) You tell him — for the last time!

MAJOR BOOTHROYD: Nice and light — in a lady’s handbag.
No stopping power.

M: Any comments Double-O Seven?

JAMES BOND: I disagree sir. I’ve used a Beretta for ten years — I’ve never missed with it yet!

M: Maybe not, but it jammed on your last job and you spent six months in hospital in consequence. If you carry a Double-O number it means you’re licenced to kill not get killed. And another thing. Since I’ve been head of MI7 there’s been a 40 percent drop in Double-O operative casualties, and I want it to stay that way. You’ll carry the Walther — unless of course you’d prefer to go back to standard intelligence duties.

JAMES BOND: No sir. I would not.

M: Then from now on you carry a different gun, show him armourer.

MAJOR BOOTHROYD: Walther PPK 7.65 mil with a delivery like a brick through a plate-glass window. Takes a Brausch silencer with very little reduction in muzzle velocity — the American CIA swear by them.

M: Thank you Major Boothroyd.

MAJOR BOOTHROYD: Thank you sir. (to Bond) Goodnight sir.

M: Any questions Double-O Seven?

JAMES BOND: No sir.

M: Alright then. Best of luck.

JAMES BOND: Thank you sir. (Bond picks up the Walther in its box, hiding the Beretta underneath, and walks to the office door)

M: (without looking up from his desk) Double-O Seven!

JAMES BOND: Sir?

M: Just Leave the Beretta.
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I'm all for the new "realistic" approach.
The old, "suave" Bond got old.

The films are better without the silly gadets and
the cheesy ###ual innuendo, such as "Pussy Galore". :cool:
Just look at any of the old Bond films with Roger
Moore to see how awful the suave Bond films could be.

Then there are those that say Daniel Craig isn't
Bond because he is blond, can't drive a standard
shift, and has expressed his personal opinion that
he doesn't like firearms (because he witnessed someone
shot in the hand.)

I say, so what? It's what's on the screen that counts.
It's called acting because they are people pretending
to be other people. If the product on the screen is
good, then I don't care if the actor is a liberal or a vegetarian. :)
 
The Bourne films were what the Bonds films should have been and have hopefully become. I love that Bond kills with a gun instead of some freakin' laser;) Sean Connery will always be " The Bond " for me but this new guy is great, in my opinion. I kick my butt for letting my prohib lapse in the 80's,I will never get that Walther PPk or the Beretta 9mm. Damn.
 
haggiswalker said:
I kick my butt for letting my prohib lapse in the 80's,I will never get that Walther PPk or the Beretta 9mm. Damn.
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I thought that Daniel Craig was some kind of anti gun nut who felt that they all should be banned? Reason enough for me not to watch his films.
 
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