Bore snake

Longshot said:
The problem is not the metal bristles in the boresnake or any brush for that matter. Its repeatedly pulling the cloth over the sharp edge of the crown that causes the damage. Think using a rope to cut down a tree VIA friction.
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My Nylon bore snake sure as hell ain't cutting steel. Mild tempered 416 stainless has a brinell hardness of around 388 and nylon rope of a boresnake has a hardness of approximately potato and again certainly less than brass bristles.

Methinks were not gonna agree on this one.
 
Longshot said:
The problem is not the metal bristles in the boresnake or any brush for that matter. Its repeatedly pulling the cloth over the sharp edge of the crown that causes the damage. Think using a rope to cut down a tree VIA friction.
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So the rope...is hurting the metal? And the bullet moving at high speed, high heat is not hurting it...
 
ranger_dave said:
So the rope...is hurting the metal? And the bullet moving at high speed, high heat is not hurting it...
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A high speed high heat bullet goes down the middle of the bore. A grit embedded rope doesn't. But hey, if you want to run a bore snake down your bore, have at it. If I am dropping $600 to have a match barrel installed, you can bet my rifle will never see a bore snake.

I have shot in a couple of matches over the years and have never seen a bore snake being used to clean the bore on a precision rifle.
 
curseyou said:
My Nylon bore snake sure as hell ain't cutting steel. Mild tempered 416 stainless has a brinell hardness of around 388 and nylon rope of a boresnake has a hardness of approximately potato and again certainly less than brass bristles.

Methinks were not gonna agree on this one.
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lol well said.

potato lol




Bore snakes are a good quick clean tool. a field tool so to say. They oviously do not do as good of a job as when you properly clean your rifle .... but sure as hell there not gona dammage your gun.
 
For my $300 Savage hunting rifle.........sure I would run a bore snake down it (if I actually owned one)

For my $3000+ competition precision rigs.........not even on a cold day in hell.

YMMV
 
Like others have said the bullet exits the center of your bore. The boresnake will rub on the Sharp edges of the crown unless you figure you can pull it exactly out the center every time. Just the fact that people are using a boresnake in a precision rifle in the first place tells me that they are probably not taking the proper time to clean anyways.
Feel free to clean yours however you like. But don't say we didn't tell you when you start getting flyers out of nowhere and you can't figure it out.
 
Cleaning rifles is over rated. When deformed bullets fall to the ground 5 feet from the bench because they had to travel through so much crud to exit, then it needs a little cleaning. Anything before that is just exercise.
 
Longshot said:
Like others have said the bullet exits the center of your bore. The boresnake will rub on the Sharp edges of the crown unless you figure you can pull it exactly out the center every time. Just the fact that people are using a boresnake in a precision rifle in the first place tells me that they are probably not taking the proper time to clean anyways.
Feel free to clean yours however you like. But don't say we didn't tell you when you start getting flyers out of nowhere and you can't figure it out.
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Not trying to be a #### or anything but...so I use my boresnake, then I whip off the muzzle end getting nice black rings on my rag and then soak the end in a bit of cleaner as I cannot clean that bit with a snake. So w/e was let of the edge for the boresnake being dragged over it...if it wasn't whipped off from me would the first shot not blow out w/e "crud" was left?

I seriously cannot understand the issue of it being DAMAGING, I know it is not the best way to clean your rifle, I get that
 
Sorry I don't understand your post. Its very simple. If you pull your boresnake out of the barrel at an angle enough times you will wear the sharp edge of the crown and eventually you will get gasses escaping from that area sooner than the rest of the crown. Your accuracy will suffer at that point. Whether you are a good enough shot to realize what is happening is another story altogether.
 
Considering you ain't pulling it thru your barrel 5000 times every shot, I wouldnèt think it would damage anything.

I used them on every of my rifles and no problem at all. Better to use that than nothing. Full length rod is good for home or back at the camp.
 
Longshot said:
Sorry I don't understand your post. Its very simple. If you pull your boresnake out of the barrel at an angle enough times you will wear the sharp edge of the crown and eventually you will get gasses escaping from that area sooner than the rest of the crown. Your accuracy will suffer at that point. Whether you are a good enough shot to realize what is happening is another story altogether.
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:agree: I can watch a hardened peel plate on a bottle labeller start to dull in one shift from it's original edge once the initial wear it wears much much slower but it's sharp edge is gone. This wear occurs from plastic label backing web that is smooth to the touch and believe me it can wear a groove in stainless steel. So my point is it is not as hard as you think to wear the sharp edge off a crown.
 
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I have had guys bring their guns to me saying it stop shooting accurate. The first thing I ask is how they clean the rifle as well as inspect the bore more often then not there is heavy copper fouling in the bore. I then show them my cleaning technique they are usually surprised at what it takes to get stubborn fouling out especially on a factory barrel. They then go to the range fire some groups and are shocked by the improvement they see and they quickly give up using boresnakes for proper cleaning and realize how important it is to remove excess fouling when accuracy starts to fade.

My favorite copper removers are KG-12 and KG carbon solvent, Wipe-out and The Butches copper solvent stuff (sp) ? My point is you are not going to clean copper fouling with a boresnake very effectively. Another point I would like to add is each solvent I find has a certain way/technique it works best. I like to use the KG-12 for medium bore soaks as it will dry up on you it needs to be worked wet. For longer soaks I use the Wipe-out and for spot cleaning the throat I leave the patch in loose ish on a plastic jag to soak for a hour or so. I clean my precision rifles when needed but not excessively although I like to keep my chamber very clean and free of oil, carbon and debris I use brake cleaner to keep it nice and grippy acetone can be used for final wipe.
 
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I LOVE Boresnakes, they are great for business.
Every year we take in several rifles with boresnakes stuck in the bore. How exactly this happens seems to have various causes, all of which end with the rope breaking and there is NO way to get it out.

Ryan you spent big bucks on this rifle PLEASE buy a Dewey coated 1 pc rod and clean it properly. I would hate to have to be the bearer of bad news should a boresnake fail.
 
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