borrowing/renting pistols for action matches

[calibrecarstairs]

Lending and Transfers are still defined as separate things.

 

[OkayShooter]

I cant see how any of this is legal in todays environment..."transfer of a pistol" is illegal and to me "transfer & lend are synonymous and mean the same. I know lending used to be common especially in husband-wife handgun ownership & usage but my take on the newest edict by Herr Turd could cause a court hearing.

I got a form from the CFO for Request for Alternate / Secondary Storage / Borrowing

That borrowing also can select ATT, so they can use the pistol at the range.

Because I was looking at Alternative storage, as my place will be an unsecured construction site.

 

[fingers284]

The wording offered by Carstairs post would seem to negate your post in legality.


first document... "B. the borrower uses the firearm in direct supervision of the owner" would negate any legality to an ATT being usable.

second document...Definition of transfer; Transfer means " sell, barter OR GIVE.

 

[OkayShooter]

 

[Slow Kite]

Some licensed drivers borrow or rent a car. Some certified seafarers borrow or rent a boat. Some licensed pilots borrow or rent a plane.

Why would a Canadian firearms licensee - and a registered gun - be any different?

Think about it :

When something bad happens involving a car, the driver is being investigated
When something bad happens involving drugs, they give out free drugs
But
When something bad happens involving a gun, guns are being banned

Can't wait when they wake up and ban all evil cars and give out free guns.

 

[KotKotofeich]

I have a friend who has a pistol on loan from a business. The CFO added it to his ATT and he is allowed to store it at his home so it is possible.

Just tried asking the ON CFO if our business can lend to an individual. They said no. So really interested to talk to your friend to see what argumentation they used.

 

[Wendell]

Just tried asking the ON CFO if our business can lend to an individual. They said no. So really interested to talk to your friend to see what argumentation they used.

I'm aware of one person who has reported to me, personally, of having "....lent, for the rest of my life..." a restricted handgun to another person living in a different province, and the loan was authorized by an ATT.

I looked again at how lending is described in section 33; I note that they deliberately used the very specific word "person". A business, on the other hand, might have multiple employees and a business must keep records of acqusition and dispensation. As it happens, the person who lent this handgun (in the scenario I've just related to you) is also an owner of a licensed firearms business. My WAG is that a loan from a licensed person who was also an owner of a licensed firearms business might have been described (by someone who didn't see the significance of the distinction) as a "...loan from a business."

 

[KotKotofeich]

My WAG is that a loan from a licensed person who was also an owner of a licensed firearms business might have been described (by someone who didn't see the significance of the distinction) as a "...loan from a business."

That would make sense

 

[marekkye]

Since your folks are in the US, have you investigated moving here yourself?

I'm a dual, so I can easily move down there, but I'll stay up here. My industry's up here. Right now, I'm looking into safe lockers across the border to store my gear and shoot in clubs down there.

 

[marekkye]

OP has passed the course. He doesn't have a physical licence.
Who is to say he will get one?
Are you going to loan him firearms?

came in at 4 weeks.

 

[tiriaq]

At our club we have routinely made pistols available for folks who do not have one. I have not only supplied a pistol but also holster, belt, magazines and pouches. Now this was for use on the range during organized, supervised events.
Rifles as well.
It is important to support, encourage and facilitate shooting activities.