Bought a Mosin-Nagant!

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AK-47: It works though you have never cleaned it once every couple years.
AR-15: You have a special cleaner and use it after every day.
Mosin: It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945

AK-47: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside
AR-15: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters
Mosin: You can hit the farm from two counties over

AK-47: Cheap mags are fun to buy
AR-15: Cheap mags melt
Mosin: You know what a clip actually is!

AK-47: Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away
AR-15: You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger
Mosin: What's a safety?

AK-47: Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling
AR-15: Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system
Mosin: You rifle has dog collar

AK-47: Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter
AR-15: Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife
Mosin: Your bayonet can stab someone on the other side of the room

AK-47: You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can hit it
AR-15: You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds
Mosin: You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange

AK-47: When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club
AR-15: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat
Mosin: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood

AK-47: Recoil is manageable, even fun
AR-15: What's recoil?
Mosin: Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by the previous shot

AK-47: Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
AR-15: Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts
Mosin: Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time

AK-47: Your rifle won some revolutions
AR-15: Your rifle won the Cold War
Mosin: Your rifle won a pole vault event

AK-47: You buy cheap ammo by the case
AR-15: You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one
Mosin: You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine

AK-47: Service life, 50 years
AR-15: Service life, 30 years
Mosin: Service life, 100 years, and counting

AK-47: It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes
AR-15: You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper
Mosin: You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting to shhot anything but 7.62x54r from an Mosin

AK-47: You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick
AR-15: ou can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith, it's under warranty!
Mosin: If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one

AK-47: You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to burst into flames
AR-15: You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group
Mosin: You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4

AK-47: After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn"
AR-15: After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down"
Mosin: After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the chiropractor

AK-47: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot of Vodka
AR-15: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hotdogs and apple pie
Mosin: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for shishkabob

AK-47: You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set
AR-15: Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle
Mosin: Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest

AK-47: Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint
AR-15: Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high tech polymers
Mosin: our rifle's finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and Olga's toe nails

AK-47: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov
AR-15: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner
Mosin: You're not sure there WERE cameras to photograph Sergei Mosin


AK-47: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"
AR-15: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.
Mosin: Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in the the yard to sleep in.

AK-47: You can pick off a deer pretty easy at 300 meters
AR-15: You can pick off prairie dogs at 300 meters all day long
Mosin: You can pick off a moose from the next province

AK-47: Sometimes mistaken for spare parts
AR-15: Sometimes mistaken for a toy
Mosin: Sometimes mistaken for an artillery piece

AK-47: Makes a Boom when fired
AR-15: Makes a Pop when fired
Mosin: A group of Germans just yelled "Vat Vas Dat Noise?"

AK-47: I shot the enemy!
AR-15: I think I shot the enemy!
Mosin: I got the enemy and the 4 standing behind him!

AK-47: Heavily dents the metal gong and makes a loud gong sound
AR-15: Scratches the metal gong and makes a ping sound
Mosin: Can't tell if you hit the gong because it goes straight through

AK-47: Puts a big hole through a tree
AR-15: Puts a small hole in a tree
Mosin: Chops and stacks the tree into firewood

AK-47: Cost you $600
AR-15: Cost you $1200
Mosin: Free with a tank of gas

AK-47: Can start the handguards on fire from too much shooting
AR-15: Can start a fire if too close to a magnifying glass
Mosin: Can start a fire from the fireball from the muzzle

AK-47: Iron sights are good enough
AR-15: Lots of fancy optics available
Mosin: Barrel is so long who needs sights to aim, it always shoots point blank

AK-47: Can take down deer sized game
AR-15: Causes an arguement if asked if it can take take deer sized game
Mosin: Causes a call from the US Government asking if you know what happened to their satellite

AK-47: Invented 50 years ago by a consummate engineer
AR-15: Invented 60 years ago by wounded tank sergeant
Mosin: Invented 117 years ago by two drunks on a budget

AK-47: Used with ammo accordance with the Geneva Convention
AR-15: Used with ammo not in accordance with the Geneva Convention
Mosin: One of the reasons the Geneva Convention was written

AK-47: Useful against unarmored foe
AR-15: Useful against armored foe
Mosin: Useful against tanks

AK-47: One inch groups at 100 yards
AR-15: Five to six inch groups at 100 yards
Mosin: Muzzle is one inch from target at 100 yards

AK-47: Low cost, low maintenance
AR-15: High cost, high maintenance
Mosin: Free with a tank of gas and hasn't been cleaned since WWII
 
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Make it easy and get both!

If thats not an option, I would go with a Mosin. I own both and I enjoy shooting a mosin more and they are easier to clean after corrosive ammo. With mosin's generally the earlier date you can get the better.
 
buy one cause they are cool...

but based on your ammo concerns, the mosin is your choice. plus you can reload for it later on and not worry about finding your brass.
 
My gut feeling is that SVT's are going to be worth more in the long term because of their appearances, history and limited production. Also because they're harder to clean more of them will be destroyed by poor maintenance while surplus is still cheap.

That said, that will take a while, so get a mosin? I really like both. Mosins are super simple and low hassle. Only recommendation is to clean the whole action with boiling water for a long time before taking it out shooting - vast majority of sticky bolts in mosins that I've encountered has been caused by sneaky cosmoline lurking way inside the receiver ring and oozing out during firing or when the gun heats up then jamming the action after firing. Can't be seen inside the receiver ring, doesn't come out very easily, solvents are a pain in the butt and slow - just run super hot water through it with dish soap and scrub the bejesus out of it then re-oil with a lighter weight oil and you'll be good.
 
I have several of both. I love them both. If I could only have one, it would be a Mosin. Simple, reliable and easy to take care of. SVT is a complex piece of machinery and if you aren't that familiar with them they can have a long learning curve.
 
Both are great choices. Cheap ammo, historic values, inexpensive and will treat you well. Mosins are simple and fun rifles and SVTs are a wee bit more complicated but not as complicated as some people say they are. They are both awesome rifles but with the SVT you'll burn through ammo fast. I would personally start with a Mosin and then if you enjoy the surplus scene and the 7.62x54r round then go for the SVT, that is what I did (although I always planned on getting an SVT for collecting purposes). When you look for a Mosin you want matching numbers and a good bore. Pre-war Hex receiver is desirable too but get what is overall the best. If you need anymore info on either rifle anyone on this forum can help you and google has tons of info too.

Also, cleaning after shooting surplus ammo goes as followed:

1. Get really warm/hot/boiled water and put a little bit of dish soap in it
2. Pour down bore
3. Run a dry patch or two to dry any excess water
4. Clean like normal

Hope you find what you want!
 
Get both. 220 bucks for 880 rounds makes a lot of good shooting. Both rifles are as low price as they have ever been.
 
Get both. Buy a few boxes of non corrosive to run through the SVT, and save the corrosive stuff for summer when you can shoot the piss out of it and give it a good bath. For the Mosin, shoot the corrosive, water down the barrel, and clean as normal.

Too bad about not having a bayonet, the Mosin looks neat with it affixed!
 
I'll soon have two of each, so I'd say get both as well. You aren't going to find them any cheaper than what they are right now.
 
Get the Mosin first, there are plenty around at the moment, and they are almost all the same. Then figure out which SVT you want as there are a few more choices available and get that one.
 
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