Bought a Norc 9mm 1911 frame, now what.....

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In the last days before Supreme Leader Turdeau brought the handgun ban in I bought a Norc NP28 frame. I'm looking for info from folks who have built these on build recommendations. From what I gather the mags are hard to source but unsure of the rest. This will be my first build. Thanks in advance.

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Is it a completely bare frame?

1911s are pretty notorious for requiring extensive fitting, not just dropping in parts. It may be a better topic for the gunsmithing forum. Not knowing your background, probably most people here are going to tell you that if you have to ask the question, you need a gunsmith to do it for you. If you're really keen regardless, start by reading the Kuhnhausen manual.
 
I have no experience with the NP28. There are going to be parts proprietary to the design. Everything else will be standard 1911.

The NP29 uses single stack magazines. I have found that most 1911 parts work just fine. Took one 9mm NP29, changed the ejector, and dropped on a Remington Rand slide with Norinco .45 barrel, and it worked fine.

Make sure that the fire control group works properly - trigger, sear, disconnector, hammer, safety, grip safety, three leaf spring.

On another, I installed a Colt .22 conversion kit. No issues, works great.
 
I bought a year ago an NP44. Double stack in .45 ACP. It also accepts Para P16 mags.
It seems to me that the NP28 is the 9mm version ( I may be wrong on this ).
Here is a link to a fairly extensive article on the NP28. http://www.firearmstraining.ca/np28.html
It mentions that Bersa Thunder mags work in it.
IMO, the top end of a 1911 in 9mm should fit on the NP28.
Most of the frame internals from a 1911 should fit with the exception being parts that are unique to a wide frame. Trigger bow, mag release etc.
 
I’ve got an np28 in 9mm to my knowledge (from trying to parts swap between my np29 single stack) the trigger, the mags, the mag release and the grip safety are the only parts that aren’t standard 1911 parts. I know that bersa thunder pro and beretta 92fs mags can be modified to fit the rest will be tricky, I assume some parts can be fitted from other double stack 1911s or 2011s but having not done it myself I can not say for sure
 
I think that you are correct about just being the trigger, the mag release and the grip safety and of course the mags. My NP44 takes the Para Ord P16 .45 mags without any
modifications so I think that if the Para 16 mags are available in 9mm then they should work.
I can send you pictures and measurements on the other parts if that would help you find compatible ones. Just ask. No problem.
 
The frame has everything but the hammer and ambition safety. I Run Guns has a Rock Island 10mm double stack and I am thinking of purchasing it with their strip the frame option. I may hold off until they have a 9mm option. Mags are my biggest worry so thanks for the info on the 92fs mags, have not found any Bersa Thunder Pro mags.
 
Hunter-gatherer said:
The frame has everything but the hammer and ambition safety. I Run Guns has a Rock Island 10mm double stack and I am thinking of purchasing it with their strip the frame option. I may hold off until they have a 9mm option. Mags are my biggest worry so thanks for the info on the 92fs mags, have not found any Bersa Thunder Pro mags.
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Tactical imports had them that’s where I got mine you need to modify them and they’re not completely reliable but they do work an ambidextrous safety will need to be modified to fit as the frame cut out isn’t perfect, any 1911 hammer and safety should work with some fittings
 
I thought that you had just a bare frame. It seems that you have the grip safety and the mag release both of which need to be wide frame.
If so then from your last post you need just the hammer and the safety and mags.
you are in luck then because the hammer is a standard 1911 single stack and so is the safety. On my NP44 the frame is cut down to single
stack size just above the grips. I assume to allow stand trigger parts , hammer etc to fit.
I just checked my NP44 against my Colt and the hammer & thumb safety are the same sizes. I think the safety does not even have to be an ambi.

If I am correct then you don't have to buy a Strip the frame option.
Mags are a bit of an issue but there are options.
 
So I wanted to figure this out for myself as I have both an np28 double stack and an np29 single stack I thought why not take both apart and find out what’s what



Both assembled



Both disassembled



Different angle showing the wider mag well of the np28
 
Here are the only parts I can see that are made specifically for the np28

The mag release, longer on the np28
(My np29 has an extension on the mag release)



The triggers obviously different as the np28 is a double stack



The mainspring pin the frame is wider so naturally the pin is wider on the np28




The grip safety, not sure why but the grip safety on the np28 has these weird wings on them, I can only assume it’s to fill the gaps left by the channel that the wide trigger slides into

 
Of corse I had to swap some parts over and aside from the obvious ones, trigger, mag release, most of the parts of a single stack 1911 will “fit” but look slightly off

The slide release from a single stack will “fit” and it does function, holding the slide back on an empty mag it looks really weird as the frame is wider than a single stack, might be able to fit an extended slide release with some filing




The grip safety is another one that “fits” but because of the gap it looks quite odd unfortunately this np29 grip safety didn’t actually work in the np28, it didn’t prevent the gun from firing but didn’t function as a grip safety not sure if that’s a problem with the spring that’s in the np28 or that my np29 is looser than an “insert ### joke here” but I’m sure with some work it could function





I didn’t check the main spring pin for functionality but looking at it I can confidently say a single stack one will work just look weird

I hope this answers most questions about parts interchangeably certainly was a fun experiment for me cheers
 
I think what happened is norinco knocked off a para ordinance. The original steel grip double stack was the para. And a para isn't a 2011 because of many reasons one of which is the grip is part of the frame.
 
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