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Just brought home a Globe M-777 rifle. Also known as a Norwegian Krag Jorgensen, rebarreled in .308

After cycling it with snap caps a few times, the magazine follower spring cracked in half. Haven't even put a real round through it yet.

Is there a Canadian resource for replacement parts? I've found one place in the states that actually has it, but they don's ship to Canada. Any help would be appreciated!
 
Those mag springs are known to break. My brothers been on the hunt for one for a couple years and hasent found one yet.

Not sure your experience so I will say be VERY careful shooting 308 through a krag. Single locking lug + hot 308 can be a very bad day for you and the gun..

I personally wouldn't shoot anything but light handloaded 308 through a krag. I wont even shoot factory 6.5x55 through my krag, it gets a steady diet of light loads.
 
Remove both bits of the spring and inspect carefully under a good light and a powerful magnifying glass; my bet is that the spring was cracked for a long time before it finally went.

That done, take it to a good machine-shop, describe the use and have it silver-soldered. Silver solder, properly done, has a tensile strength of about 90,000 pounds per square inch, quite comparable to the original steel of the spring.

It works: I have a silver-soldered extractor/spring in my 1911 Steyr pistol which has lasted many years.
 
smellie said:
Remove both bits of the spring and inspect carefully under a good light and a powerful magnifying glass; my bet is that the spring was cracked for a long time before it finally went.

That done, take it to a good machine-shop, describe the use and have it silver-soldered. Silver solder, properly done, has a tensile strength of about 90,000 pounds per square inch, quite comparable to the original steel of the spring.

It works: I have a silver-soldered extractor/spring in my 1911 Steyr pistol which has lasted many years.
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This is exactly what I was looking to hear. There was very slight darkening in one corner of the break. Not obviously rust at first glance but enough to note. I can try to grab a picture if you like.
 
Tinman204 said:
Those mag springs are known to break. My brothers been on the hunt for one for a couple years and hasent found one yet.

Not sure your experience so I will say be VERY careful shooting 308 through a krag. Single locking lug + hot 308 can be a very bad day for you and the gun..

I personally wouldn't shoot anything but light handloaded 308 through a krag. I wont even shoot factory 6.5x55 through my krag, it gets a steady diet of light loads.
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Unlike the US krag, the Norwegian krags use the bolt arm to lock as well. They also have a bolt stop on the rear of the receiver that the US krags lack.

I do not reload at this point, I just grabbed the lightest .308 I could find. Was hoping to find some 7.62 nato stamped ammo, but that's reaching a bit for the local cambodian tire.
 
Globe's bubba work they did on all these old milsurps is also suspect. I'd have it looked over by a smith before shooting anything out of it.
 
Pif said:
Unlike the US krag, the Norwegian krags use the bolt arm to lock as well. They also have a bolt stop on the rear of the receiver that the US krags lack.

I do not reload at this point, I just grabbed the lightest .308 I could find. Was hoping to find some 7.62 nato stamped ammo, but that's reaching a bit for the local cambodian tire.
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I'm very aware of the differences in krag actions, I own several. I also shoot them.

By "lightest" ammo are you talking bullet weight or by pressure? Theres no way of knowing how much pressure a given factory load produces. I'd be very careful I'd I was you.

That's all I'm going to say about that.
 
Tinman204 said:
I'm very aware of the differences in krag actions, I own several. I also shoot them.

By "lightest" ammo are you talking bullet weight or by pressure? Theres no way of knowing how much pressure a given factory load produces. I'd be very careful I'd I was you.

That's all I'm going to say about that.
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I just went by bullet weight. I appreciate your concern. Can you recommend reasonably available ammo for it?
 
Tinman204 said:
I'm very aware of the differences in krag actions, I own several. I also shoot them.

By "lightest" ammo are you talking bullet weight or by pressure? Theres no way of knowing how much pressure a given factory load produces. I'd be very careful I'd I was you.

That's all I'm going to say about that.
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I have a Norwegian Krag that was reworked by Globeco and it's had thousands of rounds down the tube to the point it could use a new barrel. It is a very handy carbine with a 20 inch barrel. Kicks like the proverbial mule and is accurate enough to hunt with out past 300 meters if I do my part well.

As mentioned these aren't US Krags.

Some of the BSA 98s had some real issues with heat treatment. Many of the actions were made in Yugoslavia. Tinman 204, depending on which one you had, I'm willing to bet it wasn't the lugs that were set back but the lug recesses in the receiver. I had one that was engraved and they had to heat treat the receiver to soften it enough to engrave. When they heat treated it again, they didn't do it properly. I had to cut that receiver in half and toss it.

I've seen US Krags converted to 308 Win as well as 96 Swede Mausers converted and commercially built in almost every mid size North American cartridge. Especially 30-06 and 308 Winchester. I had one in 243 Winchester as well.

No, I'm not advocating anyone using "hot" loads in any of these firearms. Commercial loads should be fine though. Considering how hot Norma loads their commercial ammo?????????

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bearhunter said:
I have a Norwegian Krag that was reworked by Globeco and it's had thousands of rounds down the tube to the point it could use a new barrel. It is a very handy carbine with a 20 inch barrel. Kicks like the proverbial mule and is accurate enough to hunt with out past 300 meters if I do my part well.

As mentioned these aren't US Krags.

Some of the BSA 98s had some real issues with heat treatment. Many of the actions were made in Yugoslavia. Tinman 204, depending on which one you had, I'm willing to bet it wasn't the lugs that were set back but the lug recesses in the receiver. I had one that was engraved and they had to heat treat the receiver to soften it enough to engrave. When they heat treated it again, they didn't do it properly. I had to cut that receiver in half and toss it.

I've seen US Krags converted to 308 Win as well as 96 Swede Mausers converted and commercially built in almost every mid size North American cartridge. Especially 30-06 and 308 Winchester. I had one in 243 Winchester as well.

No, I'm not advocating anyone using "hot" loads in any of these firearms. Commercial loads should be fine though. Considering how hot Norma loads their commercial ammo?????????

TURF THE LIBERALS IN 2019

Liberals really like POOR people, they're making more of them every day

If you can't bring yourself to vote CPC, stay at home in protest.
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Any preferred ammo for your Globeco?
 
bearhunter said:
I have a Norwegian Krag that was reworked by Globeco and it's had thousands of rounds down the tube to the point it could use a new barrel. It is a very handy carbine with a 20 inch barrel. Kicks like the proverbial mule and is accurate enough to hunt with out past 300 meters if I do my part well.

As mentioned these aren't US Krags.

Some of the BSA 98s had some real issues with heat treatment. Many of the actions were made in Yugoslavia. Tinman 204, depending on which one you had, I'm willing to bet it wasn't the lugs that were set back but the lug recesses in the receiver. I had one that was engraved and they had to heat treat the receiver to soften it enough to engrave. When they heat treated it again, they didn't do it properly. I had to cut that receiver in half and toss it.

I've seen US Krags converted to 308 Win as well as 96 Swede Mausers converted and commercially built in almost every mid size North American cartridge. Especially 30-06 and 308 Winchester. I had one in 243 Winchester as well.

No, I'm not advocating anyone using "hot" loads in any of these firearms. Commercial loads should be fine though. Considering how hot Norma loads their commercial ammo?????????

TURF THE LIBERALS IN 2019

Liberals really like POOR people, they're making more of them every day

If you can't bring yourself to vote CPC, stay at home in protest.
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The BSA rifle in question was a majestic, probably 1960s vintage??? Hornaday evolution was the ammo it ate a steady diet of.

Now I'm not saying I wouldn't fire a 308 Krag I'm just saying the OP needs to be careful. You being whom you are, you're very qualified to shoot darn near anything and know what's safe and what's not. Most people are not at that level..

I find the vast majority of modern factory ammo to be VERY warm. My shoulder prssure testing equipment confirms that. :)

Being rural I have friends who are hunters that come over to sight in their rifles on my property. Every time I try one of their guns in a caliber that I handload for I'm shocked at how hot factory ammo is loaded these days. Sometimes that hunter in question is firing said "safe factory ammo" in an action made 40 or 50 years ago when pressures were lower. I've seen sticky bolts after one shot and often the owner has no clue what's going on.
 
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Im No expert but cant you buy a piece of spring steel in the proper thickness, trim it, bend it and temper it? Generally springs are pretty simple to make.
 
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There's the spring.

https://imgur.com/a/AsEYVPp
 
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