Bow Hunting if you were an animal

I'll be using a Barnett Wildcat C5 this year, I was using one of the Hortons HD175's last year. I tend to stick to the compound crossbows, because they're not as wide as recurves like the Excaliburs. I tend to find them easier to move around with in the bush and blinds.

Question for you JY... what are you using for aiming reticle? Iron sights, red dot, full scope? Depending on what it is, it also may need to be adjusted so that you're properly on target.

Like I said in a previous post, you really need to get out with some more experienced crossbow hunters, and get them to help you become more comfortable with your gear. I find it's one of the things most people don't do... getting familiar with the equipment they're using. It should be natural for you to use it, like using your hand. It's a constantly spouted saying, but very true... "Practice, practice, practice."
 
I personally have only had success once, with a compound bow....

So anyone with extensive crossbow experience, I have a question for you.

Is JasonYuke's experience typical? Or did he just have a bad day?

Cheers........
PS: This thread reminds me, it's about time I took up primitive hunting tools again. Thank you!
 
Well, I can see this thread has turned south....I don't recall anyone saying that we disagree with crossbows for hunting, in fact, I support it. Alberta views the advantages/disadvantages between the two as making them different...so what. There are still tons of opportunities and places to hunt with or without a crossbow. The regs in Alberta are different. No need to call people pinheads because they don't agree with the season perimeters. This is not someone saying you can't hunt with a crossbow, this is someone saying it should be archery equipment...like it is in Ontario, and some fine Albertan lads, saying...hey, we think crossbows are not part of archery equipment, as per the regs so we don't see an issue. No need to get your knickers in a knot. This is just a silly excuse for an argument.
 
Back to Morpheus32..............it looks to me like the thread turned south on post #3.

I did not call anybody on this board a pinhead, I was referring to government bureaucrats, the bean counter types, who write policy for the rest of us to follow. My point was and is that these folks are not infallible, and stuff they write does not necessarily have any relevance to reality. So just because one bureaucracy includes, and one excludes, a type of archery equipment IS NOT GERMANE to this thread, where the guy was talking about HIS ACTIVITY, which was BOW HUNTING. And I asked folks to PLEASE pull together as a like-minded community. That's all, folks.

Doug
 
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And hunting with a crossbow is BOW hunting, not RIFLE hunting, or MUZZLE LOADER hunting, or whatever.

You might live in a jurisdiction where the provincial authorities decided that you cannot use a crossbow during the archery season. That doesn't mean SQUAT. Provincial authorities dance to the tune they are told to dance to. Like the province of Ontario outlawed the spring bear hunt for IDEOLOGICAL reasons, but pretended it was for BIOLOGICAL reasons. It never was about biology. :mad:

So if YOUR province has decided that a crossbow is not archery equipment, FINE. Your pinheads are no smarter than our pinheads. They are all government employees and do the government's bidding, because that is what they are paid to do. And that is a good thing, our civil servants work for us via our elected governments, no matter how WRONG the government may be on any issue. Welcome to democracy.............:rolleyes:

But some dumb government rule does not change an incontrovertiible FACT: hunting with a crossbow is BOW HUNTING. YOU might not like it, YOU might not choose to use a crossbow, YOU may have other opinions (to which you are surely entitled) but YOU cannot change that FACT. Crossbow hunting is a form of BOW HUNTING. A crossbow is a type of BOW, it is not a type of RIFLE. So let's all get along and agree that the guy is talking about BOW HUNTING, which he was engaged in before a bunch of FELLOW HUNTERS chose to s**t on him for his choice of equipment.

I might yet blow a gasket on this, like that thread where a bunch of pinheads jumped all over a fellow hunter who had ALLEGEDLY committed an offence and had not yet been found guilty. You know, one of those freedoms guaranteed by our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms...........

Doug
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A..fricken....MEN Doug!!!!!!!! :cheers:

And yes it was post #3 from Demonical that derailed this thread for no apparent reason. :kickInTheNuts:
 
Too bad about the hijacking of this thread.

My only archery deer to date was two years ago. My observation is that pain for a deer is different from pain for a human. My shot was also through both lungs, but pretty far back. The deer took quite some time to expire and mostly stayed in sight. It was very alert and seemed confused. It was out of bow range and alert enough that I couldn't sneak up on it, so in the best interest of ultimately recovering it, all I could do was watch.

But its reaction to being shot through the lungs was nothing like mine would have been!!! You simply can't anthropomorphize when trying to understand the pain of an animal that is very very much tougher than a human.

RG

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Doug said:
And hunting with a crossbow is BOW hunting, not RIFLE hunting, or MUZZLE LOADER hunting, or whatever.

You might live in a jurisdiction where the provincial authorities decided that you cannot use a crossbow during the archery season. That doesn't mean SQUAT. Provincial authorities dance to the tune they are told to dance to. Like the province of Ontario outlawed the spring bear hunt for IDEOLOGICAL reasons, but pretended it was for BIOLOGICAL reasons. It never was about biology. :mad:

So if YOUR province has decided that a crossbow is not archery equipment, FINE. Your pinheads are no smarter than our pinheads. They are all government employees and do the government's bidding, because that is what they are paid to do. And that is a good thing, our civil servants work for us via our elected governments, no matter how WRONG the government may be on any issue. Welcome to democracy.............:rolleyes:

But some dumb government rule does not change an incontrovertiible FACT: hunting with a crossbow is BOW HUNTING. YOU might not like it, YOU might not choose to use a crossbow, YOU may have other opinions (to which you are surely entitled) but YOU cannot change that FACT. Crossbow hunting is a form of BOW HUNTING. A crossbow is a type of BOW, it is not a type of RIFLE. So let's all get along and agree that the guy is talking about BOW HUNTING, which he was engaged in before a bunch of FELLOW HUNTERS chose to s**t on him for his choice of equipment.

I might yet blow a gasket on this, like that thread where a bunch of pinheads jumped all over a fellow hunter who had ALLEGEDLY committed an offence and had not yet been found guilty. You know, one of those freedoms guaranteed by our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms...........

Doug
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So, can you call a bolt an arrow then???????
 
Jason, it has been asked a couple of times but so far you have not responded: did you shoot your broadheads into any sort of target before you took them hunting?

There is a reason we are asking.
 
I sure hope the original poster doesn't abandon the sport of archery, it is a horrifyingly humbling feeling to lose an animal, I lost my first last weekend, a buck where I thought my shot placement was perfect. I tracked for 200 yards until I lost him in a swamp. Almost hung my bows up for good after that, I am still losing sleep over it.
I practice every day, I trust my equipment and I still let myself down at the moment of truth, bow hunting is a challenging sport no matter how you look at it. Having said that, I hunt with a crossbow, recurve and a compound, never really looked at any one of them different than any other. Each one requires the exact same skill right up to the moment I release the arrow. If crossbows are not legal in your area just sit back and wait, soon they will be. The dinosaurs who preach that a crossbow is not archery are becoming a dying breed, those who understand the flight of an arrow know that once it is in flight there is no magical way that a crossbow arrow remains in flight longer than any other arrow, to assume differently is ridiculous.
I shoot a very modern crossbow, and a very modern compound, my compound shoots flatter and faster than my crossbow, and weighs far less. The compound is far easier to maneuver in the woods than a crossbow and is very advantageous in that aspect. The crossbow is nicer on cold days when I am bundled up and my shot may be affected by the amount of clothes I wear in respect to my shot placement and respect for the quarry.
If you hunt from a tree you have no right to dismiss the crossbow due to the fact it can retain it's energy without being held, drawing a modern compound isn't exactly hard. I hunt from the ground at all times, I just can't seem to sit still very long.
To the guy who says crossbows are not archery, you really need to sit down and consider what you are saying, or presuming. I hunt with a crossbow and I am indeed a bow hunter! My ability to put myself in to a position where I am 25 or less yards from my game is what makes me a bow hunter, not the device in my hands.
When they invent something new to thrust an arrow I will buy one of those too, and if it involves the same skills as all my other bows I will hunt with it as well. You may not be old enough to remember when compounds first hit the scene, the traditional recurve guys were outraged! There was no way they were going to let that machine in to their season, it involves little skill and you could shoot it a mile!.. Eventually they were swallowed up and compounds made their way in to the mainstream, the exact same movement that is happening at this moment with crossbows. Anti crossbow people are an easy oposition, too bad they are fellow hunters and have to be seen as opposition. I personally have no respect for any form of "anti" hunters.
 
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Yes indeed archery of ANY type is a limited range sport indeed compared to any firearm, including muzzleloaders.
I think back to the time I first started archery hunting in Saskatchewan. Boy was that eye opening! And I know there are fellow CGN members here who can confirm this. But I did not give up, and I learned from my mistakes.
If one gives up at the first moment of disappointment, nothing would get done in this world. Certainly failing with primitive weapons probably is the most sobering moment in one's hunting career. But a good hunter seeks to correct this, so it will never happen again.
Jason is assured of one thing, if he evaluates this error correctly, & seeks to improve his skill-set, he will not repeat it in the future. It's called evolution.

Never give up......

PS: Anyone know of a 'cat's paw' quiver for traditional archery FS?
 
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